Is UK 'culture' to blame for child neglect -leading to child suffering?

[Mr Gray]

                                               In your opinion, perhaps?

If you read Shining's post you will note she makes reference to the manner in which the incident was reported in Portugal.

You will see my post makes reference to the Portuguese press ... the quote is an example of this.

The photograph illustrates the pool of the Hotel Paraiso in Albufeira where the family were staying with the hotel in the background. 
The Portuguese press reported that a months old child had been thrown from an eighth floor balcony into that pool.

If that is the evidence relied upon to denigrate Brits in popular culture and their parenting skills ... are you buying into the probability that such an event ... as reported in the Portuguese press ... is feasible?

In other words ... is the portrayal of drunken, brawling Brits drugging their children with calpol ... a fair and accurate portrayal of British culture?

the sad thing is that the portuguese people will believe these ridiculous  stories

[Alice Purjorick]

The baby was taken to the parents, couple of Irish tourists on holiday in the Algarve, on Sunday night. The girl's mother was seen on the balcony of the 8th floor of the hotel with the baby on her lap, putting her in danger. Both parents showed signs of intoxication and shot the 14 months to the pool baby. There are suspicions that the child was sedated.

A bebé foi retirada aos pais, casal de turistas irlandeses a passar férias no Algarve, no domingo �  noite. A mãe da menina foi vista na varanda do 8º andar do hotel com a bebé ao colo, colocando-a em perigo. Ambos os progenitores apresentavam sinais de embriaguez e atiraram a bebé de 14 meses para a piscina. Há suspeitas de que a criança estivesse sedada.

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Hmmmm .... I can well see why there might be cultural differences in the upbringing of British children and those of other nationals.  Ours can apparently survive being 'shot' from the eighth floor of an hotel by their parents and propelled into the hotel pool, sustained by nothing more than a spoonful of Calpol.

Good to see that the Portuguese press continues to uphold the standards established in 2007 as far as reporting on Brits and their children on holidays.

Anyway, in just a few years time it would seem that a young Eireann will be lifting golds in the Olympics if she can be rehabilitated off the Calpol by then.

Only if she is put on EPO after being weaned off Calpol.

[slartibartfast]

                                               In your opinion, perhaps?

If you read Shining's post you will note she makes reference to the manner in which the incident was reported in Portugal.

You will see my post makes reference to the Portuguese press ... the quote is an example of this.

The photograph illustrates the pool of the Hotel Paraiso in Albufeira where the family were staying with the hotel in the background. 
The Portuguese press reported that a months old child had been thrown from an eighth floor balcony into that pool.

If that is the evidence relied upon to denigrate Brits in popular culture and their parenting skills ... are you buying into the probability that such an event ... as reported in the Portuguese press ... is feasible?

In other words ... is the portrayal of drunken, brawling Brits drugging their children with calpol ... a fair and accurate portrayal of British culture?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/children/3314633/Are-we-using-too-much-Calpol.html

[Mr Gray]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/children/3314633/Are-we-using-too-much-Calpol.html

article written by Christina Hopkinson...

when you read an article do you simply take it at face value or are you more critical...

Christina Hopkinson is an outspoken advocate of alternative medicine...her articles are more than a little biased

[G-Unit]

                                               In your opinion, perhaps?

If you read Shining's post you will note she makes reference to the manner in which the incident was reported in Portugal.

You will see my post makes reference to the Portuguese press ... the quote is an example of this.

The photograph illustrates the pool of the Hotel Paraiso in Albufeira where the family were staying with the hotel in the background. 
The Portuguese press reported that a months old child had been thrown from an eighth floor balcony into that pool.

If that is the evidence relied upon to denigrate Brits in popular culture and their parenting skills ... are you buying into the probability that such an event ... as reported in the Portuguese press ... is feasible?

In other words ... is the portrayal of drunken, brawling Brits drugging their children with calpol ... a fair and accurate portrayal of British culture?

There was a time when we followed the 'when in Rome' doctrine. Now some Brits abroad ignore local culture and feelings and behave very badly;

More than 500 Brits have been arrested in the Costa del Sol in the past two years, new figures reveal.
Official data obtained from the Foreign Office shows 257 Brits were arrested on the coastal holiday retreat last year, with 260 nicked in 2013.
Around 400 of these were listed as 'general' offences, likely to include alcohol-related public order cases.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3161085/More-500-Britons-arrested-Spanish-police-Costa-del-Sol-past-two-years-new-figures-reveal.html#ixzz3wsOwegJk
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Photographs in the Greek and UK press have shown young drunken Britons having sex in bars and other public places.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4189154.stm

On the whole us Brits have got a bad reputation overseas.
Whether it's lounging by the pool shouting up to your friend's hotel balcony, spilling beer like it's water or lunging at anything in a skirt, being in a foreign clime becomes like a passport to loose behaviour.
From Lanzarote to Majorca and Thailand to Beirut, our strange whims, afternoon drinking sessions and often total disregard for local custom means we stick out like a sore thumb.


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[Alice Purjorick]

There was a time when we followed the 'when in Rome' doctrine. Now some Brits abroad ignore local culture and feelings and behave very badly;

More than 500 Brits have been arrested in the Costa del Sol in the past two years, new figures reveal.
Official data obtained from the Foreign Office shows 257 Brits were arrested on the coastal holiday retreat last year, with 260 nicked in 2013.
Around 400 of these were listed as 'general' offences, likely to include alcohol-related public order cases.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3161085/More-500-Britons-arrested-Spanish-police-Costa-del-Sol-past-two-years-new-figures-reveal.html#ixzz3wsOwegJk
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Photographs in the Greek and UK press have shown young drunken Britons having sex in bars and other public places.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4189154.stm

On the whole us Brits have got a bad reputation overseas.
Whether it's lounging by the pool shouting up to your friend's hotel balcony, spilling beer like it's water or lunging at anything in a skirt, being in a foreign clime becomes like a passport to loose behaviour.
From Lanzarote to Majorca and Thailand to Beirut, our strange whims, afternoon drinking sessions and often total disregard for local custom means we stick out like a sore thumb.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2952188/A-guide-NOT-Brit-abroad.html#ixzz3wsQwmWtv
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In some quarters it is known as "British knob'eads on tour".

[Brietta]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/children/3314633/Are-we-using-too-much-Calpol.html

Sigh ... calpol is not a sedative it is an analgesic and if used at all should be used sparingly.  Anyone using calpol unnecessarily and as a soporific on children is an irresponsible idiot.

It is not so much a 'cultural' thing as a case of a basic lack of education on how over the counter medicines should be used, particularly if they are a product aimed at children.
Overdosing on paracetamol probably won't immediately make a child drowsy ... but it will play merry hell long term on internal organs.

[G-Unit]

I too find the tale peculiar. Modern parents seem to exist in a different world;

whatever people might think about this peculiar tale of modern motherhood

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[stephen25000]

I too find the tale peculiar. Modern parents seem to exist in a different world;

whatever people might think about this peculiar tale of modern motherhood

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Thanks for that G-Unit.

[Alice Purjorick]

I too find the tale peculiar. Modern parents seem to exist in a different world;

whatever people might think about this peculiar tale of modern motherhood

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3393113/A-baby-seized-America-negligent-WPC-mother-insists-s-wrong.html#ixzz3wvnKchon
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Why is the story now headlines when the incident took place in April 2015?
Is it because the criminal charges have been dropped and she has been allowed to come home. The neglect charges are still on the stocks though I notice the prime sources are The Sun and the Mail on Line.
I guess there are plenty legs left in it.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/london-suing-nyc-arrest-baby-put-foster-care-article-1.2487885

[stephen25000]

All that woman deserves is hefty legal bills and no sympathy , for her stupidity.

[Miss Taken Identity]

article written by Christina Hopkinson...

when you read an article do you simply take it at face value or are you more critical...

Christina Hopkinson is an outspoken advocate of alternative medicine...her articles are more than a little biased

Unlike pharma? creating an illnes and an expensive cure is just around the corner?

[Miss Taken Identity]

Why is the story now headlines when the incident took place in April 2015?
Is it because the criminal charges have been dropped and she has been allowed to come home. The neglect charges are still on the stocks though I notice the prime sources are The Sun and the Mail on Line.
I guess there are plenty legs left in it.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/london-suing-nyc-arrest-baby-put-foster-care-article-1.2487885

I saw this in the Independant and Guardian, it is still circulating. The child may be comming back to the UK but the Mother will not be given automatic custody. It was claimed her brother/relative would be given custody,but they withdrew the offer. No reason given. Strange story, not well reported.

Colour Blue: This is what I read, Please do not take it as an accurate account of what has happened. The Mother was charged, but those charges were dropped, she has not been found guilty of anything in a court of Law.

[Mr Gray]

I saw this in the Independant and Guardian, it is still circulating. The child may be comming back to the UK but the Mother will not be given automatic custody. It was claimed her brother/relative would be given custody,but they withdrew the offer. No reason given. Strange story, not well reported.

Colour Blue: This is what I read, Please do not take it as an accurate account of what has happened. The Mother was charged, but those charges were dropped, she has not been found guilty of anything in a court of Law.

that's exactly what i read too... I think...speculation...that she upset the NY cops...and they are making life very difficult for her... I think she may well have done absolutely nothing wrong

[Miss Taken Identity]

that's exactly what i read too... I think...speculation...that she upset the NY cops...and they are making life very difficult for her... I think she may well have done absolutely nothing wrong

You could be right Davel. It may well be she did leave the baby unattended briefly to wash dishes or whatever, and someone, very over protective, over reacted. Or she did show signs of being relaxed with her baby, and leaing it unattended for a few mins  while she was in the same vicinity, which was seen as  lazy, bad parenting by someone. Still a strange story though. I just thought her saying that it was UK culture was a bit weird.