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Offline Carana

Re: Gonçalo Amaral should never have been taken off the case!
« Reply #165 on: February 05, 2016, 02:44:37 PM »
GM wrote that in his blog and for her to contact Kate as she would remember the conversation months later.

And?

ETA: Hang on, your original point was correlating that entry of a lady that Kate had spoken to and the fact that she'd slept well that night (3 June).

If that had been a supportive conversation, perhaps it gave Kate some kind of hope.

But what was your point about linking those two points along with a vigil and pings?
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Gonçalo Amaral should never have been taken off the case!
« Reply #166 on: February 05, 2016, 03:47:50 PM »
And?

ETA: Hang on, your original point was correlating that entry of a lady that Kate had spoken to and the fact that she'd slept well that night (3 June).

If that had been a supportive conversation, perhaps it gave Kate some kind of hope.

But what was your point about linking those two points along with a vigil and pings?

That point was not intended for you. I've posted about all this on the private thread so I'm not repeating myself.
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Offline Carana

Re: Gonçalo Amaral should never have been taken off the case!
« Reply #167 on: February 05, 2016, 04:06:38 PM »
That point was not intended for you. I've posted about all this on the private thread so I'm not repeating myself.

Ok.

So what exactly is the point that you're making on this thread?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Gonçalo Amaral should never have been taken off the case!
« Reply #168 on: February 05, 2016, 04:57:07 PM »
I don't have time to check into the cases that you're referring to. In either, did any forensic evidence support it?

There was none in the Cipriano case.

No
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Re: Gonçalo Amaral should never have been taken off the case!
« Reply #169 on: February 05, 2016, 04:57:29 PM »
Being fed to pigs and being thrown in a skip are both ideas which have been guffawed at on here.

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As far as I'm aware no one has suggested that Madeleine was thrown in a skip.  They have suggested however that *you know who* tossed her into a nearby wheelie bin, which was subsequently taken to the nearest tip and the contents dumped, and eventually buried under 9 years of PdL garbage.  Shining In Luz has some very good reasons why this theory is guffaw-able.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Gonçalo Amaral should never have been taken off the case!
« Reply #170 on: February 05, 2016, 05:04:19 PM »
Living near Furneaux Pelham at the time so was I.  The butchers in Braughing are still supplied by the farm in question - and get fed up with locals asking for "3 pounds  of mince and 5 of Mrs McKay".

Oh dear; wasn't there a murder by shotgun there in recent times too ?
And not too far from Baldock either;
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Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Gonçalo Amaral should never have been taken off the case!
« Reply #171 on: February 05, 2016, 05:13:46 PM »
Oh dear; wasn't there a murder by shotgun there in recent times too ?
And not too far from Baldock either;

I cant recall too many shotgun murders in Baldock in recent years (apart from the usual trigger happy locals after a Saturday night skinful - but that is more accidental death than yer actual murder). 
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Gonçalo Amaral should never have been taken off the case!
« Reply #172 on: February 05, 2016, 05:27:16 PM »
As far as I'm aware no one has suggested that Madeleine was thrown in a skip.  They have suggested however that *you know who* tossed her into a nearby wheelie bin, which was subsequently taken to the nearest tip and the contents dumped, and eventually buried under 9 years of PdL garbage.  Shining In Luz has some very good reasons why this theory is guffaw-able.

Are you guffawing because it was suggested by a "sceptic"?
Are you guffawing because it was suggested in this particular case ? or
Are you guffawing because it was suggested and you believe that it could never happen?
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Offline Carana

Re: Gonçalo Amaral should never have been taken off the case!
« Reply #173 on: February 05, 2016, 05:35:39 PM »
What physical evidence has Amaral found to substantiate any of his theories in either the Cipriano case or the McCann one?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral should never have been taken off the case!
« Reply #174 on: February 05, 2016, 05:40:13 PM »
Are you guffawing because it was suggested by a "sceptic"?
Are you guffawing because it was suggested in this particular case ? or
Are you guffawing because it was suggested and you believe that it could never happen?
First off - have I guffawed?  Second off, speak to Shining in Luz regarding why it is highly unlikely to have happened as suggested by the "sceptic".   In fact, she posted a detailed rationale of why it was not a plausible scenario so if you're desperate to know the reasons why it's guffaw-able it's all on here somewhere.

Offline Brietta

Re: Gonçalo Amaral should never have been taken off the case!
« Reply #175 on: February 05, 2016, 05:42:39 PM »
No

There was fingerprint evidence.

**Snip
A Volvo had been spotted repeatedly driving past the cases and the number plate led the police to 34-year-old Arthur Hosein of Rook’s Farm in Stocking Pelham on the Hertfordshire/Essex border. Hosein's fingerprints matched those found on the ransom demands. Police scoured the farm for several weeks but could find no trace of Mrs McKay or of what had happened to her.
http://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/crime-files/mckay-kidnapping/arrest
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Gonçalo Amaral should never have been taken off the case!
« Reply #176 on: February 05, 2016, 06:21:58 PM »
I cant recall too many shotgun murders in Baldock in recent years (apart from the usual trigger happy locals after a Saturday night skinful - but that is more accidental death than yer actual murder).

The shotgun murder was at F-P.
Unfortunately the significant bit about Baldock was edited out.
Check out The School for the general drift......oops I doubt I am even allowed to mention its name without being edited. The one at the back of Mansfield Road and alongside Weston Way as I recall  8(0(*
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Gonçalo Amaral should never have been taken off the case!
« Reply #177 on: February 05, 2016, 06:29:21 PM »
There was fingerprint evidence.

**Snip
A Volvo had been spotted repeatedly driving past the cases and the number plate led the police to 34-year-old Arthur Hosein of Rook’s Farm in Stocking Pelham on the Hertfordshire/Essex border. Hosein's fingerprints matched those found on the ransom demands. Police scoured the farm for several weeks but could find no trace of Mrs McKay or of what had happened to her.
http://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/crime-files/mckay-kidnapping/arrest

I thought the question posed related to forensics in both cases regarding the victims ? My mistake .
No comment on the other case I mentioned ?

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Offline Brietta

Re: Gonçalo Amaral should never have been taken off the case!
« Reply #178 on: February 05, 2016, 06:37:37 PM »
I thought the question posed related to forensics in both cases regarding the victims ? My mistake .
No comment on the other case I mentioned ?

No.
There is no relevance to Madeleine's case.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Gonçalo Amaral should never have been taken off the case!
« Reply #179 on: February 05, 2016, 07:52:19 PM »
As far as I'm aware no one has suggested that Madeleine was thrown in a skip.  They have suggested however that *you know who* tossed her into a nearby wheelie bin, which was subsequently taken to the nearest tip and the contents dumped, and eventually buried under 9 years of PdL garbage.  Shining In Luz has some very good reasons why this theory is guffaw-able.

Not quite. SIL's grasp of the rubbish collection arrangements have been questioned.
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