Author Topic: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?  (Read 42035 times)

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Online Eleanor

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #60 on: February 07, 2016, 07:25:18 PM »
I honestly believe he was of the opinion that he had done a good job in 'solving' the Cipriano case and as a result was of the opinion that 'solving' another missing child case would be easy-peasy.

I am of the honest opinion that he was scared rigid in case there was an abductor on the loose, so he had to scotch that idea.

stephen25000

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Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #61 on: February 07, 2016, 07:28:31 PM »
I am of the honest opinion that he was scared rigid in case there was an abductor on the loose, so he had to scotch that idea.

'I am of the honest opinion'

Is that the latest catchphrase ?

Well, I am of the honest opinion that Amaral tried to do his job before being removed.Mistakes were made, and that is hardly unique to police investigations over here either.

Offline Carana

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #62 on: February 07, 2016, 07:34:53 PM »
I'm not sure where I read it (his book?), but wasn't one of his first acts as coordinator of Madeleine's case to send requests to the UK for background information on the Drs McCann and their companions?

If it wasn't ~ it should have been.

So he said... to someone who wasn't involved in this investigation. Even if this chap passed on the request, how could the UK authorities have responded to a vague request for private "background information" without an official and detailed request?

Were any ILORs sent during Amaral's tenure?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #63 on: February 07, 2016, 08:23:21 PM »
About Madeleine's parents being named as formal suspects, Amaral spoke about “strong evidence” as the base for the decision and referred that “there was a common understanding”, between Portuguese and British police officers involved in the investigation, about the fact that Madeleine was dead.


so amaral thought there was strong evidence against the parents...he really hadn't got  a clue

Offline Carana

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #64 on: February 07, 2016, 08:47:01 PM »
About Madeleine's parents being named as formal suspects, Amaral spoke about “strong evidence” as the base for the decision and referred that “there was a common understanding”, between Portuguese and British police officers involved in the investigation, about the fact that Madeleine was dead.


so amaral thought there was strong evidence against the parents...he really hadn't got  a clue


 Discussing the investigation Mr Gamble said that the initial Portuguese police response to Madeleine’s disappearance was "haphazard".

“There was chaos, and as it went on it was haphazard which was alien to the more structured police you would expect here in the UK. There was not a sense of order.

“In the first instance the parents should be your Number One suspects. In most cases in the first few golden hours as you collect evidence you can then rule them in or out.

“And that was one of the huge flaws in this, that people didn't focus on clearing the ground beneath their feet in those chaotic first few hours that led into the haphazard first few weeks.

“When I carried out the scoping review there was no evidence that some of the critical information and the analysis of which could have led to intelligence and to leads had been followed up.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/11068928/Secret-Madeleine-McCann-report-finds-competing-British-forces-hampered-inquiry.html

Offline carlymichelle

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #65 on: February 07, 2016, 08:50:45 PM »
im going to  ask a honest question  to mcann supporters  if the police officer in charge  of the case had  NOT been  GA  would you  still  hate  him as much as  you do GA?  even   if he had the same views  as   GA?

Offline mercury

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #66 on: February 07, 2016, 08:57:36 PM »
im going to  ask a honest question  to mcann supporters  if the police officer in charge  of the case had  NOT been  GA  would you  still  hate  him as much as  you do GA?  even   if he had the same views  as   GA?

Bad cops = suspecting/making the parents arguidos
Good cops = follow only abduction theory/sightings/unending list of "suspects" however ridiculous

Your name or position wouldn't matter one iota! You'd be trashed with all means available as has anyone who has raised an eyebrow or two on any part of the story

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #67 on: February 07, 2016, 08:59:45 PM »
Bad cops = suspecting/making the parents arguidos
Good cops = follow only abduction theory/sightings/unending list of "suspects" however ridiculous

Your name or position wouldn't matter one iota

Absolutely nothing wrong with initially making parents suspects

Offline carlymichelle

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #68 on: February 07, 2016, 09:00:56 PM »
Bad cops = suspecting/making the parents arguidos
Good cops = follow only abduction theory/sightings/unending list of "suspects" however ridiculous

Your name or position wouldn't matter one iota! You'd be trashed with all means available as has anyone who has raised an eyebrow or two on any part of the story

whats hypocritical is if they   needed the police they would call them right  away

Offline mercury

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #69 on: February 07, 2016, 09:22:07 PM »
whats hypocritical is if they   needed the police they would call them right  away

Thats true

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #70 on: February 07, 2016, 09:43:43 PM »
whats hypocritical is if they   needed the police they would call them right  away

most police are very good and honest...
I would have no problem calling them

Offline John

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #71 on: February 08, 2016, 03:59:44 PM »
Didn't his absence from his wife and daughters go with the turf of the kind of job he was in?
It was something he either should have been capable of handling or he should have stood aside before he was made to.

There must have been someone who was capable of balancing personal life and work.  Someone with experience to know that if not solved within the first few hours he/she could be in it for a long haul

I think the destructive effect was that his inexperience in handling a missing child case was showing through and he was wallowing.  So the frustration had to show somewhere ~ and the outburst was it.

I don't know how he ended up on both the Cipriano and the McCann cases given his expertise lay in catchng drug smugglers.

A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #72 on: February 08, 2016, 04:05:36 PM »
I'm not sure where I read it (his book?), but wasn't one of his first acts as coordinator of Madeleine's case to send requests to the UK for background information on the Drs McCann and their companions?

If it wasn't ~ it should have been.

That's correct but not all the information requested was provided.  In addition, he later found out that the English police had held back various sighting reports and other material for some reason.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

stephen25000

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Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #73 on: February 08, 2016, 04:06:56 PM »
I don't know how he ended up on both the Cipriano and the McCann cases given his expertise lay in catchng drug smugglers.

Was Redwood an expert in cases of disappearances ?

Nicola Wall apparently is an expert in murder cases.

Online Eleanor

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #74 on: February 08, 2016, 04:17:35 PM »
I don't know how he ended up on both the Cipriano and the McCann cases given his expertise lay in catchng drug smugglers.

Wasn't Amaral the genius who decided that drug smugglers were bringing in contraband into small coves?

Well done, that man.

The Cornish had been doing this for centuries.  So he was a bit behind the times.  Not awfully good, in fact.