Hiding a body in the hope it will be found.

[Alfred R Jones]

I'd like to read about some cases of people involved in the death of another who have deliberately moved the body to a hiding place where they hope it will be discovered.  Anyone got any examples?

[Eleanor]

It might also be interesting to explore the reasons for doing this.

[ferryman]

From the perspective of a murderer, the obvious reason for hoping the opposite is that forensic evidence might lead to him/or her being caught, or, at the very least, suspected.

[Alfred R Jones]

It might also be interesting to explore the reasons for doing this.

Crikey, I'd better start training for Rio! 

[Brietta]

From the perspective of a murderer, the obvious reason for hoping the opposite is that forensic evidence might lead to him/or her being caught, or, at the very least, suspected.

On the other hand having made certain there was nothing to tie him/her to the body ... to implicate someone else by leaving some trace evidence in place.

[Carana]

I can think of a few reasons why someone directly responsible might hide a body hoping it would be found, but no cases come to mind at the moment.

I'm not sure if this related to your question, but someone placed the suitcase with the remains of the poor little Aussie girl in a place where it could be found. That can't have been the person charged with her murder as he was in jail for other offences. In that case, it may have been someone formerly associated with him, perhaps in an unrelated criminal way, and didn't want to call the police to wherever the suitcase had originally been.

[G-Unit]

Some murderers like to pose bodies or mutilate them in a certain way, like a signature. They want the body found. Others have little appetite for disposal and make a bad job of hiding the body. Then we have the truly efficient like Mr West who puts lots of effort into hiding the bodies of his victims. I think there are many variations but the only ones who want the bodies found are those who make sure they are, often by not hiding them at all.

[Alfred R Jones]

Some murderers like to pose bodies or mutilate them in a certain way, like a signature. They want the body found. Others have little appetite for disposal and make a bad job of hiding the body. Then we have the truly efficient like Mr West who puts lots of effort into hiding the bodies of his victims. I think there are many variations but the only ones who want the bodies found are those who make sure they are, often by not hiding them at all.

Would it be fair to say that such people are probably psychopathic in nature?

[G-Unit]

Would it be fair to say that such people are probably psychopathic in nature?

All of them you mean? The inefficient hiders, the efficient hiders and the non hiders? Are all murderers psychopathic? Some think they may all have some sort of disorder, but then where do you place the 'normal' marker?;

"Murderers seem to have no appreciation of boundaries," Sharp explains. "And it shows up in all aspects of their lives. Most criminals I deal with are very narcissistic. They're blame-shifters, manipulative, and can't feel anyone else's pain but their own. A consistent hallmark, in fact, particularly of killers, is this extreme narcissism." Sharp points to the book People of the Lie, by the late M. Scott Peck, as a good description of a killer's personality disorder.

"These people are always the victim, it's always someone else's fault, they have no sense of other people's boundaries, and they really can't see how twisted that view is," she says. "It's a disorder."
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/12/are-all-murderers-mentally-ill/67295/

most psychologists would say that all of us sit somewhere on the spectrum of traits included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV). A person who is classified as "mentally ill" simply sits at a much more extreme point along that spectrum.
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/12/are-all-murderers-mentally-ill/67295/

[Alfred R Jones]

All of them you mean? The inefficient hiders, the efficient hiders and the non hiders? Are all murderers psychopathic? Some think they may all have some sort of disorder, but then where do you place the 'normal' marker?;

"Murderers seem to have no appreciation of boundaries," Sharp explains. "And it shows up in all aspects of their lives. Most criminals I deal with are very narcissistic. They're blame-shifters, manipulative, and can't feel anyone else's pain but their own. A consistent hallmark, in fact, particularly of killers, is this extreme narcissism." Sharp points to the book People of the Lie, by the late M. Scott Peck, as a good description of a killer's personality disorder.

"These people are always the victim, it's always someone else's fault, they have no sense of other people's boundaries, and they really can't see how twisted that view is," she says. "It's a disorder."
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/12/are-all-murderers-mentally-ill/67295/

most psychologists would say that all of us sit somewhere on the spectrum of traits included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV). A person who is classified as "mentally ill" simply sits at a much more extreme point along that spectrum.
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/12/are-all-murderers-mentally-ill/67295/

you cited those who pose bodies or mutilate them and "Mr" West, that seemed to cover the bulk of the murderers you were referring to,  would you not say "Mr" West et al were psychopathic in nature?

[Alfred R Jones]

Getting a bit off track here.  Cases of people (not necessarily murderers, but those who have come across an inconvenient body on their premises) who have moved it a little way off in the hopes that it will be discovered please..?

[G-Unit]

Getting a bit off track here.  Cases of people (not necessarily murderers, but those who have come across an inconvenient body on their premises) who have moved it a little way off in the hopes that it will be discovered please..?

What has that to do with Madeleine McCann? In fact, what has the thread to do with the case?

[Alfred R Jones]

What has that to do with Madeleine McCann? In fact, what has the thread to do with the case?

  I'm not really allowed to spell it out but I'm sure you can figure it out for yourself! 

[faithlilly]

What has that to do with Madeleine McCann? In fact, what has the thread to do with the case?

Let me save Alfie the bother. I believe that the body could have been concealed in a large municipal bin by one of the perpetrators connected to the disappearance. The body could have been concealed  there to create distance between the perpetrator and the crime. During the searches that intevitably followed the prepetrator I believe expected the body to be found. The blame for any injuries, sedation etc could then be levelled at an  'abductor'. Unfortunately the perpetrator did not know that the bins would be emptied before the body was found.

[Alfred R Jones]

Let me save Alfie the bother. I believe that the body could have been concealed in a large municipal bin by one of the perpetrators connected to the disappearance. The body could have been concealed  there to create distance between the perpetrator and the crime. During the searches that intevitably followed the prepetrator I believe expected the body to be found. The blame for any injuries, sedation etc could then be levelled at an  'abductor'. Unfortunately the perpetrator did not know that the bins would be emptied before the body was found.

Thank you, much obliged.  Now can we turn to the purpose of the thread which is to look at cases where such a cunning plan has been put into action before.