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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2016, 04:43:05 PM »
why was  jassi  post   deleted  dont  people  believe in having own opinions  here?  and yes  i know i will get hostile  response

Probably because most people like "hope" and cannot see, nor want to see that "hope" eventually becomes a destructive condition.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2016, 04:47:38 PM »
Probably because most people like "hope" and cannot see, nor want to see that "hope" eventually becomes a destructive condition.

 Nothing wrong with hope

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2016, 05:00:24 PM »
Probably because most people like "hope" and cannot see, nor want to see that "hope" eventually becomes a destructive condition.

Basing ones future on winning the lottery could be seen as destructive hope. 

Hoping your child is still alive even though the chances are realistically slim, is not. 

I am wondering what your point is?

stephen25000

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Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2016, 05:03:17 PM »
Basing ones future on winning the lottery could be seen as destructive hope. 

Hoping your child is still alive even though the chances are realistically slim, is not. 

I am wondering what your point is?

59C6 or 59C53, if you prefer, for the former.   8(0(*

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2016, 05:05:50 PM »
Are there any examples of abducted children being recovered after 8+ years due to an ongoing investigation? We have examples of them escaping or otherwise turning up, but through an investigation?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline carlymichelle

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2016, 05:07:27 PM »
Are there any examples of abducted children being recovered after 8+ years due to an ongoing investigation? We have examples of them escaping or otherwise turning up, but through an investigation?

not that I know of

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2016, 05:13:11 PM »
59C6 or 59C53, if you prefer, for the former.   8(0(*

45057474

Square root of -1 for the latter. 

Offline Brietta

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2016, 05:17:10 PM »
Are there any examples of abducted children being recovered after 8+ years due to an ongoing investigation? We have examples of them escaping or otherwise turning up, but through an investigation?

I have no problem with a precedent being set.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

ferryman

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Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2016, 05:23:21 PM »
I have no problem with a precedent being set.

If only that could be a "we"!

I fear it can't (at least unanimously) ....

ferryman

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Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2016, 05:24:56 PM »
not that I know of

That would rule it out, then ....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2016, 05:25:38 PM »
I have no problem with a precedent being set.

Unusual for a supporter.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline jassi

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2016, 05:30:21 PM »
That would rule it out, then ....

Even after all this time, nothing can be ruled out for certain.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2016, 05:39:00 PM »
Unusual for a supporter.

Bleedin' amazin'.
Surely the rule of argument already laid down in that quarter is "if you can't show it happened before it can't happen" ?
Killing development stone dead but why let that get in the way?
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2016, 05:52:05 PM »
Bleedin' amazin'.
Surely the rule of argument already laid down in that quarter is "if you can't show it happened before it can't happen" ?
Killing development stone dead but why let that get in the way?
Rubbish.  Anything's possible, it's just a question of how likely it is.  I've never won the lottery before.  It doesn't mean I will certainly never win it, but the likelihood is virtually nil (especially as I rarely buy a ticket). 

stephen25000

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Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2016, 05:59:22 PM »
In my opinion ... a heinous crime has been committed. 

That boils down to ... crime = victim = perpetrator = investigation.

Almost nine years ago a crime was committed in Luz and the investigation into it was botched.

Now that botched investigation into the crime is reactivated ... live lines of inquiry are being worked.  Hopefully it will eventually be revealed what happened to the victim of the crime which took place all those years ago.

For me the following positives may occur
  • perpetrators may be apprehended and brought to justice
  • what happened to Madeleine McCann revealed

The biggest bonus of all would most certainly be the safe recovery of a living child, which is what I hope for.  Others can hope for whatever suits them ... that is very much a decision for them.

At the least, should it be proved that Madeleine has been murdered; her remains recovered and returned to her family to enable them to have closure.

Apart from Madeleine's parents' inalienable right to the presumption of innocence ~ apart from the thorough 'going over' given by the Amaral and Rebelo investigations both of which looked into their every move ~ I do not have the arrogance which demands that strangers are somehow answerable to me.

Nor do I have a mindset which would allow me to join a gang with a purpose of heaping from afar, misery on people who have suffered a surfeit of it when their daughter was taken from them.

My conscience dictates that I do not attack the innocent and injured and I tend to leave investigations to those best qualified to conduct them.

It is also worth bearing in mind that without her parents' enduring efforts Madeleine's case would not be under way at the moment.  That constitutes "justice" and it was action that achieved it to this stage ... not bleating about it.

Or some person or persons have escaped responsibility for a heinous crime.

By the way how would you could the crimes of mass murderers ?

A bit more than heinous perhaps ?