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Offline sadie

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #60 on: February 11, 2016, 07:25:36 PM »
However, it doesn't mean Madeleine will be found alive.

Does it ?

About 4 years ago, I saw photos of a little girl that i believe to be Madeleine.   I compared her to a particular photo of her Mum and certain features [bone structure especially and areas around the eyes and cheeks] were dead ringers. And she was in exactly the place that I had worked out that she was likely to be, based upon my suspect and where he was. 
Not in PT nor in the UK.

To remind you, I used to teach Art and my hobby was portraiture and figure drawing, in which discipline I reached professional standard.  I have a keen eye for shape.


This little girl, who I believe to be Madeleine, looked healthy and untouched, but I cannot be absolutely sure of the later.

If she had been kept alive for 5 years then, she had won her place in peoples hearts and become a member of the "family".   It would be rare for someone to kill her after that length of time looking after her.


I think it likely that she is still alive and being looked after.

stephen25000

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Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #61 on: February 11, 2016, 07:32:33 PM »
About 4 years ago, I saw photos of a little girl that i believe to be Madeleine.   I compared her to a particular photo of her Mum and certain features [bone structure especially and areas around the eyes and cheeks] were dead ringers. And she was in exactly the place that I had worked out that she was likely to be, based upon my suspect and where he was. 
Not in PT nor in the UK.

To remind you, I used to teach Art and my hobby was portraiture and figure drawing, in which discipline I reached professional standard.  I have a keen eye for shape.


This little girl, who I believe to be Madeleine, looked healthy and untouched, but I cannot be absolutely sure of the later.

If she had been kept alive for 5 years then, she had won her place in peoples hearts and become a member of the "family".   It would be rare for someone to kill her after that length of time looking after her.


I think it likely that she is still alive and being looked after.

We know all about that already.

It wasn't Madeleine.

Perhaps you should take time out and study genetics, and see how many characteristics are similar in non 'related' individuals.

Offline Brietta

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #62 on: February 11, 2016, 08:19:48 PM »
We know all about that already.

It wasn't Madeleine.

Perhaps you should take time out and study genetics, and see how many characteristics are similar in non 'related' individuals.

If you have ever gone to pick up a child from ballet lessons it is difficult to ascertain which one is yours.  They all look exactly the same.  Same colour tights - same colour leotard - same colour hair band round the tightly pulled back bun - same shoes - same age.

One of them is yours.

What is to prevent Madeleine McCann blending in and looking like any one of the children sharing the "characteristics similar in non 'related' individuals".
Doesn't stop her being Madeleine McCann.

Just as my tiny ballerina was still my ballerina despite being one among twenty and I made sure I brought the right one home.  It may be possible that Madeleine may be singled out of the crowd to be brought home ... what objection can there possibly be to that and why should good people like Sadie not keep looking for her?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

stephen25000

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Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #63 on: February 11, 2016, 08:25:48 PM »
If you have ever gone to pick up a child from ballet lessons it is difficult to ascertain which one is yours.  They all look exactly the same.  Same colour tights - same colour leotard - same colour hair band round the tightly pulled back bun - same shoes - same age.

One of them is yours.

What is to prevent Madeleine McCann blending in and looking like any one of the children sharing the "characteristics similar in non 'related' individuals".
Doesn't stop her being Madeleine McCann.

Just as my tiny ballerina was still my ballerina despite being one among twenty and I made sure I brought the right one home.  It may be possible that Madeleine may be singled out of the crowd to be brought home ... what objection can there possibly be to that and why should good people like Sadie not keep looking for her?

They can do what the hell they want, but be aware that some people, might find it extremely intrusive and rude, if certain people were to go up to them and say, to their daughter...........

'you've got Madeleine' or words to that effect.

That kind of behaviour is likely to initiate a reaction.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #64 on: February 11, 2016, 08:29:58 PM »
If you have ever gone to pick up a child from ballet lessons it is difficult to ascertain which one is yours.  They all look exactly the same.  Same colour tights - same colour leotard - same colour hair band round the tightly pulled back bun - same shoes - same age.

One of them is yours.

What is to prevent Madeleine McCann blending in and looking like any one of the children sharing the "characteristics similar in non 'related' individuals".
Doesn't stop her being Madeleine McCann.

Just as my tiny ballerina was still my ballerina despite being one among twenty and I made sure I brought the right one home.  It may be possible that Madeleine may be singled out of the crowd to be brought home ... what objection can there possibly be to that and why should good people like Sadie not keep looking for her?

GISS
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Brietta

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #65 on: February 11, 2016, 08:41:39 PM »
GISS

I have absolutely no idea what that is supposed to mean ... but don't worry about it, I certainly don't.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline sadie

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #66 on: February 11, 2016, 08:49:42 PM »
We know all about that already.

It wasn't Madeleine.

Perhaps you should take time out and study genetics, and see how many characteristics are similar in non 'related' individuals.

Ho Ho Ho.  I seem to have upset you.

Each feature on a beings face has subtly different "tweaks" to it..... and those tweaks are what makes a face unique.

Everyone has a nose, everyone has two eyes and everyone has a mouth.  The same for the chin, forehead, hairline and cheekbones.   Some features are long and fat some short or slim; the spacing differs between individuals BUT on that simplistic basis, you with your professed Mathematical skills should be able to tell us how many variables there are before we return to the one face.


You know and I know that despite the limited number of variables coming together into a face, we can recognise people ....even between twins.  The tiny "tweaks" as i call them, enable us to differentiate between faces.  We are all slightly different.

Added to this, the little girl was dancing in exactly the place that i was looking for her, to within 50 yards .... and her mannerisms were Madeleines and her energy levels reminded me of her Mum.  I looked in this particular place because my suspect was there.

Hey ho. 
SY were interested, but you are not ... dismissing it willy nilly.

How do you know?  You haven't even seen the photos.



You really are keen that people should believe Madeleine dead.  Why?   There has to be a reason

stephen25000

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Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #67 on: February 11, 2016, 09:04:57 PM »

Ho Ho Ho.  I seem to have upset you.

Each feature on a beings face has subtly different "tweaks" to it..... and those tweaks are what makes a face unique.

Everyone has a nose, everyone has two eyes and everyone has a mouth.  The same for the chin, forehead, hairline and cheekbones.   Some features are long and fat some short or slim; the spacing differs between individuals BUT on that simplistic basis, you with your professed Mathematical skills should be able to tell us how many variables there are before we return to the one face.


You know and I know that despite the limited number of variables coming together into a face, we can recognise people ....even between twins.  The tiny "tweaks" as i call them, enable us to differentiate between faces.  We are all slightly different.

Added to this, the little girl was dancing in exactly the place that i was looking for her, to within 50 yards .... and her mannerisms were Madeleines and her energy levels reminded me of her Mum.  I looked in this particular place because my suspect was there.

Hey ho. 
SY were interested, but you are not ... dismissing it willy nilly.

How do you know?  You haven't even seen the photos.



You really are keen that people should believe Madeleine dead.  Why?   There has to be a reason


It's called living in the real world Sadie.






Offline Mr Gray

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #68 on: February 11, 2016, 09:10:42 PM »
They can do what the hell they want, but be aware that some people, might find it extremely intrusive and rude, if certain people were to go up to them and say, to their daughter...........

'you've got Madeleine' or words to that effect.

That kind of behaviour is likely to initiate a reaction.

if they are innocent they have nothing to worry about is a phrase I have heard a lot on here

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #69 on: February 11, 2016, 09:20:54 PM »
It's called living in the real world Sadie.

as you are so fond of saying...crime if any unknown...then by your own admission Maddie may still be alive in  a loving family

Offline Brietta

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #70 on: February 12, 2016, 01:47:26 AM »
They can do what the hell they want, but be aware that some people, might find it extremely intrusive and rude, if certain people were to go up to them and say, to their daughter...........

'you've got Madeleine' or words to that effect.

That kind of behaviour is likely to initiate a reaction.

We live in an era of smart phones and instant communication.  Absolutely no need to put an innocent family in fear of a stranger showing an inordinate interest in their child ... or to alert the guilty.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

stephen25000

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Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #71 on: February 12, 2016, 07:56:17 AM »

Ho Ho Ho.  I seem to have upset you.

Each feature on a beings face has subtly different "tweaks" to it..... and those tweaks are what makes a face unique.

Everyone has a nose, everyone has two eyes and everyone has a mouth.  The same for the chin, forehead, hairline and cheekbones.   Some features are long and fat some short or slim; the spacing differs between individuals BUT on that simplistic basis, you with your professed Mathematical skills should be able to tell us how many variables there are before we return to the one face.


You know and I know that despite the limited number of variables coming together into a face, we can recognise people ....even between twins.  The tiny "tweaks" as i call them, enable us to differentiate between faces.  We are all slightly different.

Added to this, the little girl was dancing in exactly the place that i was looking for her, to within 50 yards .... and her mannerisms were Madeleines and her energy levels reminded me of her Mum.  I looked in this particular place because my suspect was there.

Hey ho. 
SY were interested, but you are not ... dismissing it willy nilly.

How do you know?  You haven't even seen the photos.



You really are keen that people should believe Madeleine dead.  Why?   There has to be a reason


You aren't upsetting me Sadie, I don't know what gave you that idea.

However, when you carry on about your 'theories', I treat them in the same way as the Dan Brown books.

You are clearly obsessed in seeing what you wish to see.

I presume you are still paying visits to Belgravia Station to keep SY up to date with your theories. 8(>((
« Last Edit: February 12, 2016, 07:58:19 AM by stephen25000 »

stephen25000

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Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #72 on: February 12, 2016, 07:57:26 AM »
We live in an era of smart phones and instant communication.  Absolutely no need to put an innocent family in fear of a stranger showing an inordinate interest in their child ... or to alert the guilty.

The guilty Brietta ?

Who would 8)-))) they be ?

Offline Lace

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #73 on: February 12, 2016, 09:44:32 AM »
If Madeleine has been sold to people who wanted a child,   either through illegal adoption where they may not know the child has been adducted or abducted for them,   I don't believe they would murder her because she has a slight mark in her eye.

There are many countries they could be in,   where Madeleine's disappearance has been forgotten,   most people are just carrying on with their lives as normal and wouldn't think anything of a child with a slight mark in her eye that you had to get close up to even see.

Her hair may have got darker,   she may have hair like Gerry's and not Kate.   It could be short and not long,  anything would change her appearance.

With a new name she could be going to a private school or even be home tutored.



« Last Edit: February 12, 2016, 10:33:19 AM by Lace »

Offline Eleanor

Re: Could Madeleine McCann still be alive and well after 8 years?
« Reply #74 on: February 12, 2016, 09:50:48 AM »

Almost impossible to get her DNA since no one appears to have the right to demand this.