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stephen25000

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Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2016, 11:08:52 AM »
I don't have a problem with a general update on the twins.

What I have a problem with is:

- "experts" insisting that their sister is dead with no proof.
- "experts" accusing their parents of various forms of criminal activity
- nutters threatening to kidnap them to "make Kate talk"
- armchair detectives snapping them and uploading their photos.
- nutters announcing they're going to inform them that their sister's body is under RM's driveway
- nutters who perpetuate long-debunked myths in the hope that the twins will eventually learn the "truth"
- "satirists" who post obscene / upsetting cartoons / graphics / photoshopped images
- (...)

Likewise, I have a problem with:

''experts'' who think Madeleine who has come to no harm.
''experts'' who say there was an abduction, without the slightest bit of real evidence to support it.
''experts'' who denigrate Amaral for trying to do his job, yet won't criticize the mccanns for failing to look after their children properly.
''experts'' who say loads of people have done the same as the mccanns , yet fail to back up the 'loads'.
''experts'' who satarise  Amaral or any anyone else who doesn't toe the line of the mccann story.
''experts'' who make up fantasy stories about global conspiracies in an unproved abduction.


and there's more.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2016, 11:18:10 AM by stephen25000 »

Offline Brietta

Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2016, 11:13:05 AM »
The association of the McCanns with a child alert system is what is laughable.  These are the parents whose selfish actions resulted in them losing their daughter (reason for disappearance still undetermined) which renders the project somewhat tainted by Kate McCann's involvement.

I think there is reason to believe they are perfectly aware that dining less than two minutes from their children was the wrong thing to do.  They have said so often enough and they are having to live with the loss of their daughter.

The work they have done trying to assist others must be cathartic as well as being an exceedingly useful endeavour on behalf of people with whom she has perfect empathy ... knowing exactly what they are experiencing and going through.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Angelo222

Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2016, 11:20:40 AM »
I think there is reason to believe they are perfectly aware that dining less than two minutes from their children was the wrong thing to do.  They have said so often enough and they are having to live with the loss of their daughter.

The work they have done trying to assist others must be cathartic as well as being an exceedingly useful endeavour on behalf of people with whom she has perfect empathy ... knowing exactly what they are experiencing and going through.

The McCanns are a disgrace, they have never made any attempt to personally search for Maddie in Portugal.  Gerry's career comes first but then that was always the case.
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2016, 11:36:13 AM »
I happen to be of the opinion that the media should respect the twins right to a private life.

For Kate to discuss the twins private lives with the Sun was therefore a mistake, IMO.

The story was supposed to be about the Child Rescue Alert system, yet all the papers have majored on the twins, to the extent that the second link in the OP does not even mention the alert system.

This bit was the part that troubled me the most - She added: "They still raise money at school for the Find Madeleine Fund which is great."

I do hope that stops before they go to secondary school, otherwise they are putting themselves in the firing line for whatever some kids will invariably dish out.
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Offline Benice

Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2016, 11:37:14 AM »
The McCanns are a disgrace, they have never made any attempt to personally search for Maddie in Portugal.  Gerry's career comes first but then that was always the case.

IMO the idea that the only way to search is for the McCanns to keep making trips to Portugal is ridiculous - and  is the least productive and the most wasteful use of resources.      It also directly contradicts the expert advice that the best way to 'search' is to keep the child's profile as high as possible for as long as possible in the public eye as that gives them the best chance of being found.

However, Kate has made several trips back to Portugal.   Please provide a cite that none of those trips involved physical searching on her part.



The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
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stephen25000

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Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2016, 11:39:20 AM »
IMO the idea that the only way to search is for the McCanns to keep making trips to Portugal is ridiculous - and  is the least productive and the most wasteful use of resources.      It also directly contradicts the expert advice that the best way to 'search' is to keep the child's profile as high as possible for as long as possible in the public eye as that gives them the best chance of being found.

However, Kate has made several trips back to Portugal.   Please provide a cite that none of those trips involved physical searching on her part.

Cite the proof she has searched.

Offline Carana

Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2016, 11:44:57 AM »
Likewise, I have a problem with:

''experts'' who think Madeleine who has come to no harm.
''experts'' who say there was an abduction, without the slightest bit of real evidence to support it.
''experts'' who denigrate Amaral for trying to do his job, yet won't criticize the mccanns for failing to look after their children properly.
''experts'' who say loads of people have done the same as the mccanns , yet fail to back up the 'loads'.
''experts'' who satarists  Amaral or any anyone else who doesn't toe the line of the mccann story.
''experts'' who make up fantasy stories about global conspiracies in an unproved abduction.


and there's more.

How does that negatively impact the twins?

They will certainly already know that their parents weren't there when Madeleine disappeared while they were sleeping. That may - or may not - have created some insecurity issues along the way, but if so family love and counsellors will presumably have helped them through that and I see no need for others to insist on it every single day on social media.

Another potential issue would be if the parents became hyperprotective of the twins, thus stifling their development. However the parents and counsellors have managed to deal with that is, again, a family matter.

How do threats from nutters about firebombing their home, kidnapping them, spying on them, constant unsubstantiated accusations about their parents and all the rest of it help their development?

Online Eleanor

Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2016, 12:01:42 PM »

The Twins have been warned of what could happen and that some really nasty people might attempt to tell them lies.  This is just Kate's way of letting everyone know.
A necessary precaution.  No doubt one of many.  The Twins can't escape this, so much better that they know.

But I wouldn't say much for the chances of anyone who tries.

stephen25000

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Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2016, 12:01:51 PM »
How does that negatively impact the twins?

They will certainly already know that their parents weren't there when Madeleine disappeared while they were sleeping. That may - or may not - have created some insecurity issues along the way, but if so family love and counsellors will presumably have helped them through that and I see no need for others to insist on it every single day on social media.

Another potential issue would be if the parents became hyperprotective of the twins, thus stifling their development. However the parents and counsellors have managed to deal with that is, again, a family matter.

How do threats from nutters about firebombing their home, kidnapping them, spying on them, constant unsubstantiated accusations about their parents and all the rest of it help their development?

How many of these so called threats are real ?

Since if they were the police would be investigating and charging these people.

As  to the rest, in time those children will grow up and judge for themselves, as to who is telling the truth.

Offline Carana

Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2016, 12:09:54 PM »
You do seem to have a lot of problems.

Do you find it acceptable?

Offline sadie

Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2016, 12:11:35 PM »
How many of these so called threats are real ?

Since if they were the police would be investigating and charging these people.

As  to the rest, in time those children will grow up and judge for themselves, as to who is telling the truth.
And their lives could be made hell, by nasty children being influenced by people like you who continually cast suspicion on their parents.  Fancy a child being told by their classmates that their parents murdered their beloved sister, becuase of nasty unpleasant suspicious people implanting that thought

They could be psychologically damaged for life becos of people.

Offline Benice

Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2016, 12:13:12 PM »
Cite the proof she has searched.

I'm not the one claiming that the McCanns have never made any attempt  to personally search in Portugal. 

You should direct your question to the poster who did make that claim - i.e Angelo and ask him for his proof.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2016, 12:20:02 PM »
And their lives could be made hell, by nasty children being influenced by people like you who continually cast suspicion on their parents.  Fancy a child being told by their classmates that their parents murdered their beloved sister, becuase of nasty unpleasant suspicious people implanting that thought

They could be psychologically damaged for life becos of people.

Their parents  caused  the damage to them, by their actions in not protecting them or Madeleine.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2016, 12:24:24 PM by Angelo222 »

Online Eleanor

Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2016, 12:21:03 PM »
And their lives could be made hell, by nasty children being influenced by people like you who continually cast suspicion on their parents.  Fancy a child being told by their classmates that their parents murdered their beloved sister, becuase of nasty unpleasant suspicious people implanting that thought

They could be psychologically damaged for life becos of people.

I somewhat doubt that Stephen would encourage his children or grandchildren to behave like this.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2016, 12:25:04 PM by Angelo222 »

stephen25000

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Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2016, 12:21:07 PM »
I'm not the one claiming that the McCanns have never made any attempt  to personally search in Portugal. 

You should direct your question to the poster who did make that claim - i.e Angelo and ask him for his proof.

Their last admitted search was the morning after the night she disappeared.