Wandering Off Topic

[Vertigo Swirl]

I'm not making allegations at all, I'm explaining how, in my opinion, discussions can become something else.

Just so long as you weren’t judging any of my posts and finding them wanting, unkind, arrogant or bullying that’s fine by me!

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Where is Totman in the PJ files?

Who needs the PJ Files when Totman’s wife confirms what I’m saying?

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Redwood said “we are almost certain”.

It’s not that I’m talking about. He presented it in 2013 as a revelation moment!!! This is complete nonsense!! I even knew about Smithman in 2007!!!

[Brietta]

Who needs the PJ Files when Totman’s wife confirms what I’m saying?

She said they had spoken to the local police - but they didn't get back to them and she has no idea what happened thereafter.

That is contrary to your claim which I believe was that Dr Totman was eliminated from the inquiry.  I suggest you find a cite for that or stop posting it as a fact.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Who needs the PJ Files when Totman’s wife confirms what I’m saying?

Well, they may well have gone to the PJ but how is anyone else supposed to know that if the PJ filed their statements in the waste paper basket?

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Well, they may well have gone to the PJ but how is anyone else supposed to know that if the PJ filed their statements in the waste paper basket?

What does DCI stand for? How many years and how much money was spent between 2007 and 2013? And don’t forget the two forces were sharing information in 2007. There’s no way that Dr Totman coming forward in 2007 is a revelation moment for Redwood imo.

[Vertigo Swirl]

What does DCI stand for? How many years and how much money was spent between 2007 and 2013? And don’t forget the two forces were sharing information in 2007. There’s no way that Dr Totman coming forward in 2007 is a revelation moment for Redwood imo.

You didn’t answer my question.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

You didn’t answer my question.

I did earlier. I said the UK and Portuguese Police were talking to each other in 2007. I honestly don’t believe they won’t have shared the Totman information. Also, isn’t it to the PJ credit that they didn’t go chasing after Totman as the abductor unlike the Clarence Mitchell at the London press conference!! That same press conference where inexplicably a sighting of a man carrying a child in PDL is ignored! This is an investigation into very serious criminal activity. You don’t get much worse than a paedophile abducting a child imo. You would put out all the relevant information you had imo.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

She said they had spoken to the local police - but they didn't get back to them and she has no idea what happened thereafter.

That is contrary to your claim which I believe was that Dr Totman was eliminated from the inquiry.  I suggest you find a cite for that or stop posting it as a fact.

Why do you think they needed no further information from Dr Totman if he was still the suspected abductor?

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

She said they had spoken to the local police - but they didn't get back to them and she has no idea what happened thereafter.

That is contrary to your claim which I believe was that Dr Totman was eliminated from the inquiry.  I suggest you find a cite for that or stop posting it as a fact.

I suggest you read my posts again. I said he “came forward” and “presented himself” and earlier he was “accounted for”.  I already posted the cite.

[Brietta]

I suggest you read my posts again. I said he “came forward” and “presented himself” and earlier he was “accounted for”.  I already posted the cite.

I have read the cite and like many other ignored witnesses, such as the young women whose bedrooms had been invaded by a paedophile while they holidayed in Luz as children - no-one had ever heard about them until 2013.

No-one had ever heard about Dr Totman until 2013.  So you are making up a scenario to suit whatever whim takes your fancy.  And all in the name of on this occasion getting a dig in at Scotland Yard.

The failure here was a Judicial Police one.  Your cite explains that although Dr Totman "presented himself" no-one bothered to get back to him - so no interview there to "account for him".

DCI Redwood's information leading to Dr Totman came from the creche records and not from a witness statement or an intelligence report ruling him out.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I have read the cite and like many other ignored witnesses, such as the young women whose bedrooms had been invaded by a paedophile while they holidayed in Luz as children - no-one had ever heard about them until 2013.

No-one had ever heard about Dr Totman until 2013.  So you are making up a scenario to suit whatever whim takes your fancy.  And all in the name of on this occasion getting a dig in at Scotland Yard.

The failure here was a Judicial Police one.  Your cite explains that although Dr Totman "presented himself" no-one bothered to get back to him - so no interview there to "account for him".

DCI Redwood's information leading to Dr Totman came from the creche records and not from a witness statement or an intelligence report ruling him out.

I thought you might have offered an apology for making up stuff I never said. That's not goading btw. I genuinely thought you might, on reflection, recognise when you've alleged I have said things that I actually have not.

Why would the PJ have to get back in touch with Dr Totman? They have no need to. They realise that he isn't the abductor because Dr Totman has told them himself and he is of no relevance to the missing child. The PJ moved on. IMO it's fanciful to believe that UK Police were not aware that Dr Totman came forward in 2007. The PJ were also aware of the night creche records and they were talking to Police in the UK.

Cite for "no-one had heard of Dr Totman before 2013" please? He played tennis with Gerry. He told the PJ he believed he was Tannerman and the PJ don't spend time chasing this up as Dr Totman is not the abductor imo.

[misty]

I thought you might have offered an apology for making up stuff I never said. That's not goading btw. I genuinely thought you might, on reflection, recognise when you've alleged I have said things that I actually have not.

Why would the PJ have to get back in touch with Dr Totman? They have no need to. They realise that he isn't the abductor because Dr Totman has told them himself and he is of no relevance to the missing child. The PJ moved on. IMO it's fanciful to believe that UK Police were not aware that Dr Totman came forward in 2007. The PJ were also aware of the night creche records and they were talking to Police in the UK.

Cite for "no-one had heard of Dr Totman before 2013" please? He played tennis with Gerry. He told the PJ he believed he was Tannerman and the PJ don't spend time chasing this up as Dr Totman is not the abductor imo.

Where in the PJ files does it state that Jane's sighting was ruled out because it was really just an innocent holidaymaker? Why doesn't this feature in Amaral's book?

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Where in the PJ files does it state that Jane's sighting was ruled out because it was really just an innocent holidaymaker? Why doesn't this feature in Amaral's book?

I would imagine that not all of the files are public. We know it's true though from Dr Totman and his wife who both confirm that hereported to Police that they thought Dr Totman was the peson that Tanner saw..... There's also the photo with the Ocean Club blanket on.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I did earlier. I said the UK and Portuguese Police were talking to each other in 2007. I honestly don’t believe they won’t have shared the Totman information. Also, isn’t it to the PJ credit that they didn’t go chasing after Totman as the abductor unlike the Clarence Mitchell at the London press conference!! That same press conference where inexplicably a sighting of a man carrying a child in PDL is ignored! This is an investigation into very serious criminal activity. You don’t get much worse than a paedophile abducting a child imo. You would put out all the relevant information you had imo.

You can believe what you like, it doesn’t make it true.  This was a vital piece of information which cancelled out the (by now) famous Tannerman sighting and they didn’t think to take a statement or even leak it to the press to undermine The abduction theory?  Do me a favour…