Wandering Off Topic

[Vertigo Swirl]

Haha! i'm no handwriting expert, Vertigo!

Me neither but I?d love to know what a handwriting expert would make of both sets of writing.

[kizzy]

It seems the McCanns will never be charged about her disappearance either.  And your point is??

Well it was about hcw never revealing what info/evidence he has on C.B in reply to the post u made earlier.

[kizzy]

Really?  I post endless misinformation about CB do I? Fascinating.  Kizzy, perhaps you could give us a few examples?  No, didn?t think so.

There is no proof ...Maddie was abducted.

No evidence either......C.B. abducted Maddie.

Seems it has been the same with HCW....the same misinformation of concrete evidence for 6 year. yet never been charged.

The man suspected of kidnapping Madeleine McCann will not face any charges in the foreseeable future, with the German man set to be freed from an unrelated jail sentence in just months.

Christian Brueckner, 47, was publicly identified by German authorities in June 2020 as the prime suspect in Maddie's case, though no formal charges have been brought against him.



Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters told Sky News: There is currently no prospect of an indictment in the Maddie case.

So what has drastically changed....nothing.

[faithlilly]

Haha! i'm no handwriting expert, Vertigo!

Neither is anyone here Joe. Implying that you can tell how evil someone is by their hand writing is simply ridiculous.

[Joe Blogs]

Neither is anyone here Joe. Implying that you can tell how evil someone is by their hand writing is simply ridiculous.

Have you seen the letter, Faith? Its certainly fancy and neat I would say, but it never really struck me as weird to be honest!
I suppose you could say that LM has had plenty of spare time to develope his writing skills over the years.
Who knows?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Neither is anyone here Joe. Implying that you can tell how evil someone is by their hand writing is simply ridiculous.

Handwriting experts can tell a lot about someone?s character from their writing, it would be fascinating to see what they would say about Mitchell?s and Bruckner?s both of whom have very unusual writing I?m sure you would agree.  After all, the experts might say the writing shows an honest, loving, kind person in each case and that would be a point in their favour would it not? 

[Vertigo Swirl]

There is no proof ...Maddie was abducted.

No evidence either......C.B. abducted Maddie.

Seems it has been the same with HCW....the same misinformation of concrete evidence for 6 year. yet never been charged.

The man suspected of kidnapping Madeleine McCann will not face any charges in the foreseeable future, with the German man set to be freed from an unrelated jail sentence in just months.

Christian Brueckner, 47, was publicly identified by German authorities in June 2020 as the prime suspect in Maddie's case, though no formal charges have been brought against him.



Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters told Sky News: There is currently no prospect of an indictment in the Maddie case.

So what has drastically changed....nothing.

You made an accusation that I was regularly posting misinformation about CB, but haven?t supplied any examples of such.  Kindly stop accusing me of things I haven?t done.

[faithlilly]

Handwriting experts can tell a lot about someone?s character from their writing, it would be fascinating to see what they would say about Mitchell?s and Bruckner?s both of whom have very unusual writing I?m sure you would agree.  After all, the experts might say the writing shows an honest, loving, kind person in each case and that would be a point in their favour would it not?

Graphology is seen by many as a pseudoscience. That however was not my point.

My point was that YOU could not tell. You called Luke Mitchell?s handwriting ?disturbing?. What in particular about Luke?s writing disturbed you?

[faithlilly]

Have you seen the letter, Faith? Its certainly fancy and neat I would say, but it never really struck me as weird to be honest!
I suppose you could say that LM has had plenty of spare time to develope his writing skills over the years.
Who knows?

I have seen the letter Joe and while I found it hard to read at times, I like you, found nothing sinister in it.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Graphology is seen by many as a pseudoscience. That however was not my point.

My point was that YOU could not tell. You called Luke Mitchell?s handwriting ?disturbing?. What in particular about Luke?s writing disturbed you?

You seem to have missed the post in which I acknowledged to Joe Bloggs that I was not a handwriting expert.  I was merely expressing an opinion about his handwriting which I believe I am entitled to do.  It seems to have upset you though which is odd as I thought you disapproved of letting emotion cloud reason? I suggest taking a leaf out of Joe?s book and dial down the defensiveness.  Joe gave a perfectly reasonable response to my post, didn?t need to get defensive or uptight about it, and imo  that?s the way to conduct a civil debate.
Anyway, I stand by my opinion that his writing is extremely unusual, and taking into account what he?s in prison for that gives off a disturbing vibe imo which together with his acknowleded satanism just makes him seem a very strange fellow indeed.

[faithlilly]

I would say the only emotional feeling I have towards a case is due to the suffering of Corinne Mitchell, Faith!
I suppose i did feel for the McCanns when the news broke about Maddie, who wouldn't? Although i cant really remember now.
Bur generally, i just treat a case as a mystery to be solved without getting het up in any way really.
The trouble is with the McCann case there is very little to get you're teeth in to, unlike the Bamber and Luke Mitchell case where you have a complete crime scene scenario to explore, suspects, dead bodies the lot! And both of the alleged killers have passed a lie detector test for what its worth!
With the McCann's, it more or less boils down to whether or not you believe they are telling the truth, have they ever taken a polygraph test at all?
But yes, many posters do get emotionally involved in all these controversial cases, especially on the likes of Twitter.
The Lucy Letby case is a good example at the moment, there are fanatics on both sides, convinced they are right, but forgetting they are just armchair detectives who didn't attend her trial!
So no, personally i will never blow a fuse discussing any of these cases, Faith, although i do think that on the balance of probabilities as they say, both Bamber and LM are innocent!

The parents told the press that they would take a polygraph then backtracked, saying that it couldn?t be used as evidence in court. That, of course, was beside the point.

On the other hand Luke and Corrine begged to take a polygraph to prove their innocence. Of course they passed.

[faithlilly]

You seem to have missed the post in which I acknowledged to Joe Bloggs that I was not a handwriting expert.  I was merely expressing an opinion about his handwriting which I believe I am entitled to do.  It seems to have upset you though which is odd as I thought you disapproved of letting emotion cloud reason? I suggest taking a leaf out of Joe?s book and dial down the defensiveness.  Joe gave a perfectly reasonable response to my post, didn?t need to get defensive or uptight about it, and imo  that?s the way to conduct a civil debate.
Anyway, I stand by my opinion that his writing is extremely unusual, and taking into account what he?s in prison for that gives off a disturbing vibe imo which together with his acknowleded satanism just makes him seem a very strange fellow indeed.

What ?disturbed? you about Luke?s writing? Could you please elucidate?

[Vertigo Swirl]

The parents told the press that they would take a polygraph then backtracked, saying that it couldn?t be used as evidence in court. That, of course, was beside the point.

On the other hand Luke and Corrine begged to take a polygraph to prove their innocence. Of course they passed.

the main point about polygraphs is that like handwriting analysis it was been deemed a pseudoscience with no evidential value.  Polygraphs have been proven to be a about as accurate as a flip of the coin whiich works out well for some but not for others.  You?d have to be a complete idiot to agree to take one if you didn?t have to, imo. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

What ?disturbed? you about Luke?s writing? Could you please elucidate?

The fact that it?s very show-offy but difficult to read which is odd in itself if you wanted others to read an understand your heartfelt plea for money or freedom or both, or whatever it was he was begging for - you?d want to make it clear, legible with no thestrical flourishes.   It strikes me that the writer is very controlled and wants to be seen as something he is not.  Same with CB?s writing which is actually very different in style but looks like it was printed by a machine.  It?s just odd, but of course you will have a completely different opinion and that?s perfectly fine too, it?s really not that important enough to get on your high horse about is it?  BTW I also think Donald and Melania Trump?s signatures are somewhat disturbing too, perhaps you?re more inclined to agree with me on that?

[faithlilly]

the main point about polygraphs is that like handwriting analysis it was been deemed a pseudoscience with no evidential value.  Polygraphs have been proven to be a about as accurate as a flip of the coin whiich works out well for some but not for others.  You?d have to be a complete idiot to agree to take one if you didn?t have to, imo.

Then why did the parents agree to take one, at one point? What did they hope to achieve?