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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3180 on: June 02, 2018, 03:24:50 PM »
In my opinion it's wrong to assume that people who agree on one aspect of this case agree on all aspects of the case. Not all those who support the McCanns support their childcare decisions. Similarly, not all those who don't support the McCanns support everything Amaral said or did. The world isn't black or white, and neither are people's opinions.
Once again we have another misapprehension about what I wrote.  I did not claim that ALL those who doubt the McCanns support everthing Amaral said or did, only that he does enjoy a large amount of support and admiration from those who don’t support the McCanns, which is true.
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #3181 on: June 02, 2018, 03:40:43 PM »
Yes, I know. Somehow PT got behind on other reforms, though, and are now catapulting themselves forward. Good on them.

It remains to be seen if and when the police of England and Wales will have limits set on the length of interviews with suspects, which Portugal brought in in 2007.

I would hesitate to accuse the UK police of being 'unreformed', however, because each country has different rules, developed to suit their circumstances.
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #3182 on: June 02, 2018, 03:51:38 PM »
It remains to be seen if and when the police of England and Wales will have limits set on the length of interviews with suspects, which Portugal brought in in 2007.

I would hesitate to accuse the UK police of being 'unreformed', however, because each country has different rules, developed to suit their circumstances.

Haven't you read the legislation covering that?  There is a lot of it.  A good starting point for England and Wales might be here ... https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/60/section/41
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #3183 on: June 02, 2018, 03:53:26 PM »
It remains to be seen if and when the police of England and Wales will have limits set on the length of interviews with suspects, which Portugal brought in in 2007.

I would hesitate to accuse the UK police of being 'unreformed', however, because each country has different rules, developed to suit their circumstances.
Yes... No law against incest in Portugal.... Must suit there circumstances

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #3184 on: June 02, 2018, 03:55:48 PM »
Once again we have another misapprehension about what I wrote.  I did not claim that ALL those who doubt the McCanns support everthing Amaral said or did, only that he does enjoy a large amount of support and admiration from those who don’t support the McCanns, which is true.

In my opinion you implied that the same people donated to his defence fund, whooped and hollered with joy when he won the libel case, expressed glee at the prospect of another book by him and support and praise his actions and words in their internet posts. That may or may not be correct. Are you able to identify even one person who has done all those things?

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #3185 on: June 02, 2018, 04:02:45 PM »

In my opinion you implied that the same people donated to his defence fund, whooped and hollered with joy when he won the libel case, expressed glee at the prospect of another book by him and support and praise his actions and words in their internet posts. That may or may not be correct. Are you able to identify even one person who has done all those things?
In my opinion you imply a lot of things which when challenged you deny implying.  In my opinion you have got it wrong and I implied no such thing.  Nor am I going on another fool’s errand to satisfy this ridiculous cite-lust that has gripped the forum every time anyone expresses an opinion or makes a point about anything, especially as when cites are provided they are then ignored by those demanding them.  It is simply designed to shut down discussion IMO. 
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #3186 on: June 02, 2018, 04:06:34 PM »
Yes... No law against incest in Portugal.... Must suit there circumstances

Nor in France, Spain, Belgium, The Netherlands and Luxembourg.
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #3187 on: June 02, 2018, 04:47:49 PM »
Nor in France, Spain, Belgium, The Netherlands and Luxembourg.

yes an absolute disgrace and something Im sure we all agree portugal needs to address

Offline Robittybob1

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« Reply #3188 on: June 02, 2018, 05:03:24 PM »
Lack of evidence of drugging and body disposal yet that’s what Amaral and his cronies believe(d).
I believe the Prank Theory - nothing else, so I don't justify what they believe yet Amaral's theory and the prank theory are very similar, just the names of the victim and people potentially involved are different.
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #3189 on: June 02, 2018, 05:05:37 PM »
Wonderful thing this hindsight.


Not as wonderful as a little foresight is.
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Offline Robittybob1

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« Reply #3190 on: June 02, 2018, 05:07:12 PM »
Some people seem quite affronted by the idea that the PJ suspected the McCanns might have committed murder.  I wonder why.  Genuinely curious.  Rant over.
If they thought they murdered Madeleine you would wonder about the sense of leaving the other two kids in their care.
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Offline Robittybob1

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« Reply #3191 on: June 02, 2018, 05:09:17 PM »
For balance,lack of evidence of a burglary gone wrong but Redwood and his cronies spent a wad of tax payers money in search of it.
The open window and raised shutters are themselves potential evidence of a burglary.  Then the phone calls.
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Offline Robittybob1

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« Reply #3192 on: June 02, 2018, 05:14:29 PM »
Lack of evidence is only iyo.....GA probably still does believe in his belief


How long was it - that the twins were tested for any drugging.

Straight away - i think you will find the answer is no ...i think more like 4 months
Beliefs can come and go.  Unless he was to say what he believes now I wouldn't say "GA probably still does believe in his belief".
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #3193 on: June 02, 2018, 05:31:06 PM »
yes an absolute disgrace and something Im sure we all agree portugal needs to address

It depends why you think it's a disgrace. Is there any particular reason for picking on Portugal from the list of European countries?
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #3194 on: June 02, 2018, 05:34:17 PM »
Haven't you read the legislation covering that?  There is a lot of it.  A good starting point for England and Wales might be here ... https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/60/section/41

I haven't. I simply looked at the rules governing interviews and there was no mention of time limits when interviewing suspects. Are you saying your link does reveal such limits?
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