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Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3195 on: June 02, 2018, 06:00:14 PM »
In my opinion you imply a lot of things which when challenged you deny implying.  In my opinion you have got it wrong and I implied no such thing.  Nor am I going on another fool’s errand to satisfy this ridiculous cite-lust that has gripped the forum every time anyone expresses an opinion or makes a point about anything, especially as when cites are provided they are then ignored by those demanding them.  It is simply designed to shut down discussion IMO.

In my opinion there's no point in debating opinions. Person number one gives their opinion. Persons number two gives their opposing opinion. Why continue if neither side offers evidence to support their beliefs? Just to have a slanging match?
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Offline Robittybob1

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« Reply #3196 on: June 02, 2018, 06:07:27 PM »
In my opinion you imply a lot of things which when challenged you deny implying.  In my opinion you have got it wrong and I implied no such thing.  Nor am I going on another fool’s errand to satisfy this ridiculous cite-lust that has gripped the forum every time anyone expresses an opinion or makes a point about anything, especially as when cites are provided they are then ignored by those demanding them.  It is simply designed to shut down discussion IMO.
Cites solve the argument.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3197 on: June 02, 2018, 06:20:27 PM »
Cites solve the argument.
Sometimes, but today I have been asked 3 times for cites for ridiculous things that don't require cites, it's getting out of hand and is as I said before a way of shutting down discussion.  I suppose you'll be asking me for cites for that now too....
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #3198 on: June 02, 2018, 07:03:06 PM »

In my opinion you implied that the same people donated to his defence fund, whooped and hollered with joy when he won the libel case, expressed glee at the prospect of another book by him and support and praise his actions and words in their internet posts. That may or may not be correct. Are you able to identify even one person who has done all those things?

The Law of Libel on this Forum prevents this.  But we all know who.

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #3199 on: June 02, 2018, 07:06:51 PM »
In my opinion there's no point in debating opinions. Person number one gives their opinion. Persons number two gives their opposing opinion. Why continue if neither side offers evidence to support their beliefs? Just to have a slanging match?

Then we might as well shut up shop.  Is that what you would like?

Offline jassi

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« Reply #3200 on: June 02, 2018, 07:17:32 PM »
Cites solve the argument.

Only if accepted. I have seen posts where the cite site is rejected as unreliable.  And don't ask for a cite  8)-)))
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3201 on: June 02, 2018, 07:44:36 PM »
In my opinion there's no point in debating opinions. Person number one gives their opinion. Persons number two gives their opposing opinion. Why continue if neither side offers evidence to support their beliefs? Just to have a slanging match?
You earlier asked for a cite for something I never claimed in the first place.  You wanted the name of someone who supported Amaral in the libel trial, who looked forward to his book and who supports and praises him to this day.  Well off the top of my head I can think of two such people who post on this forum but what is to be gained by naming them?  Am I then to trawl through all their posts to prove my point?  And once I have done that will you acknowledge I am right?  Of course not!  You’ll simply ignore my post so that is why it is a fool’s errand. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3202 on: June 02, 2018, 07:46:14 PM »
In my opinion there's no point in debating opinions. Person number one gives their opinion. Persons number two gives their opposing opinion. Why continue if neither side offers evidence to support their beliefs? Just to have a slanging match?

It is your opinion that the Portuguese, statements are reliable..... It is mine that they are not
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3203 on: June 02, 2018, 10:48:35 PM »
Great.  I look forward to your next thread full of cut and pastes of the McCanns and their friends’ statements (with accompanying  links) which you have carefully selected to imply wrong-doing on their part.   Presumably we should all read your posts and contribute nothing , as there is nothing really to add is there?

You can respond or not as you wish, but you can't rebut facts with opinion. I research events, not people. My last project showed that Gerry McCann was probably correct when he said DP was absent from the tennis courts between 6.30 and 7 pm.
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #3204 on: June 02, 2018, 10:53:32 PM »
You can respond or not as you wish, but you can't rebut facts with opinion. I research events, not people. My last project showed that Gerry McCann was probably correct when he said DP was absent from the tennis courts between 6.30 and 7 pm.

You claimed Grimes opinion was that eddie alerted to cadaver...which was neither a fact nor his opinion....your research is flawed

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #3205 on: June 02, 2018, 10:57:37 PM »
It is your opinion that the Portuguese, statements are reliable..... It is mine that they are not

I have said that they were ratified and signed by the witnesses in accordance with Portuguese requirements. Therefore they are worthy of being seen as evidence by the Portuguese Judiciary.
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #3206 on: June 02, 2018, 11:10:44 PM »
I have said that they were ratified and signed by the witnesses in accordance with Portuguese requirements. Therefore they are worthy of being seen as evidence by the Portuguese Judiciary.
I absolutely  agree... But whether they are, accurate is, another question

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #3207 on: June 02, 2018, 11:22:45 PM »
You can respond or not as you wish, but you can't rebut facts with opinion. I research events, not people. My last project showed that Gerry McCann was probably correct when he said DP was absent from the tennis courts between 6.30 and 7 pm.
Do you believe your  research project is valuable work...?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #3208 on: June 02, 2018, 11:32:28 PM »
Do you believe your  research project is valuable work...?

It has value for me, because I'm interested in truth, not beliefs or speculations.

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #3209 on: June 02, 2018, 11:42:30 PM »
It has value for me, because I'm interested in truth, not beliefs or speculations.
I find it very hard to believe you have no beliefs nor have ever speculated about this case, if only in private.    No one here is able to contribute any facts about the case you don’t already know about so why invite discussion about it in the first place, when really all other people have to offer apart from the same facts you already know is opinions and beliefs?  This research project doesn’t need a public forum really, does it...or does it?
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