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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4845 on: January 15, 2019, 09:29:06 AM »
Hardly relevant.
Quite important actually.

No phone call was made to the GNR until 40 minutes after the alarm was raised, and it wasn't by the T9.

Meantime, between the alarm being raised and the GNR being called, the T9 did what, precisely?

Oh, an offer by Mrs Fenn to use her phone to call the police was rejected.

So Matthew O did a non-check around 9.30.  Matthew O did a non-call around 10.15.  Someone, presumably Gerry, rejected the opportunity to make a call, around 10.30.

With friends like these, did Madeleine need enemies?   *%87
What's up, old man?

Online Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4846 on: January 15, 2019, 09:31:53 AM »
Quite important actually.

No phone call was made to the GNR until 40 minutes after the alarm was raised, and it wasn't by the T9.

Meantime, between the alarm being raised and the GNR being called, the T9 did what, precisely?

Oh, an offer by Mrs Fenn to use her phone to call the police was rejected.

So Matthew O did a non-check around 9.30.  Matthew O did a non-call around 10.15.  Someone, presumably Gerry, rejected the opportunity to make a call, around 10.30.

With friends like these, did Madeleine need enemies?   *%87

So just another opportunity to slag off The McCanns.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4847 on: January 15, 2019, 09:58:44 AM »
By 22.20 at least three of the nine knew about Jane's sighting. They didn't seem to inform those searching to concentrate on the area the man was heading towards, however. Matthew went to the Millenium on the off chance that Madeleine had wandered in that direction. He doesn't remember when he learned of Jane's sighting. Russell was told by Jane, but it didn't seem to affect where he searched.
That to me is a great bit of research.  Can you think of why they would continue looking for her as if she had wandered off?
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Offline jassi

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4848 on: January 15, 2019, 10:03:53 AM »
That to me is a great bit of research.  Can you think of why they would continue looking for her as if she had wandered off?

I can, but would be accused of all sorts of things if I posted it on here.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4849 on: January 15, 2019, 10:05:00 AM »
So just another opportunity to slag off The McCanns.
Just another opportunity to tell guests the truth.   &%54%
What's up, old man?

Online Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4850 on: January 15, 2019, 10:26:01 AM »
Just another opportunity to tell guests the truth.   &%54%

You could tell them that Kate McCann was in a state of collapse immediately after she discovered her daughter was missing, and Gerry wasn't much better.  And that someone had to go to Reception some distance away to get them to make the call because none of them spoke Portuguese.

That would be the truth.

How anyone wouldn't be able to understand that is a mystery to me.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4851 on: January 15, 2019, 10:56:49 AM »
You could tell them that Kate McCann was in a state of collapse immediately after she discovered her daughter was missing, and Gerry wasn't much better.  And that someone had to go to Reception some distance away to get them to make the call because none of them spoke Portuguese.

That would be the truth.

How anyone wouldn't be able to understand that is a mystery to me.

There is certainly evidence that the McCann's were in a state but they would be in a state no matter what happened, wouldn't they?

According to Kate McCann when the police hadn't arrived by 10.30, Gerry asked Matthrew to go back to reception to check why not, although Matthw doesnn't mention that. In addition;

Our friends were running to and from the Tapas area, pleading with people to ring the police again from there. [madeleine]

None of their friends mentions doing that, and if they did were they ignored?
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Online Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4852 on: January 15, 2019, 11:02:15 AM »
There is certainly evidence that the McCann's were in a state but they would be in a state no matter what happened, wouldn't they?

According to Kate McCann when the police hadn't arrived by 10.30, Gerry asked Matthrew to go back to reception to check why not, although Matthw doesnn't mention that. In addition;

Our friends were running to and from the Tapas area, pleading with people to ring the police again from there. [madeleine]

None of their friends mentions doing that, and if they did were they ignored?

It seems to me that The Ocean Club Reception hoped that Madeleine had wandered, so were a bit slow in phoning The Police.
I can understand that, and wouldn't blame anyone.

But to blame The McCanns for not phoning personally is just plain nasty.  In My Opinion.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4853 on: January 15, 2019, 11:28:55 AM »
It seems to me that The Ocean Club Reception hoped that Madeleine had wandered, so were a bit slow in phoning The Police.
I can understand that, and wouldn't blame anyone.

But to blame The McCanns for not phoning personally is just plain nasty.  In My Opinion.

Mrs Fenn offered. Why wasn’t the offer accepted...even if the police had already been called ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline jassi

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4854 on: January 15, 2019, 11:32:01 AM »
There is certainly evidence that the McCann's were in a state but they would be in a state no matter what happened, wouldn't they?

According to Kate McCann when the police hadn't arrived by 10.30, Gerry asked Matthrew to go back to reception to check why not, although Matthw doesnn't mention that. In addition;

Our friends were running to and from the Tapas area, pleading with people to ring the police again from there. [madeleine]

None of their friends mentions doing that, and if they did were they ignored?

So many versions.
I suppose the truth might be in there, somewhere
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4855 on: January 15, 2019, 11:32:40 AM »
It seems to me that The Ocean Club Reception hoped that Madeleine had wandered, so were a bit slow in phoning The Police.
I can understand that, and wouldn't blame anyone.

But to blame The McCanns for not phoning personally is just plain nasty.  In My Opinion.
If you read my allegedly 'just plain nasty' post again, you will find the 'culprit' was Matthew Oldfield.

That makes your opinion 'just plain stupid'.  In my opinion.

And if you don't get censured for your 'just plain stupid' comment, presumably my response will be allowed to stand also.

Let's see.   &^^&*
What's up, old man?

Online Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4856 on: January 15, 2019, 11:42:30 AM »
Mrs Fenn offered. Why wasn’t the offer accepted...even if the police had already been called ?

What would have been the point if it had already been done?

Did Mrs. Fenn speak Portuguese, by the way?

Online Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4857 on: January 15, 2019, 11:46:15 AM »
If you read my allegedly 'just plain nasty' post again, you will find the 'culprit' was Matthew Oldfield.

That makes your opinion 'just plain stupid'.  In my opinion.

And if you don't get censured for your 'just plain stupid' comment, presumably my response will be allowed to stand also.

Let's see.   &^^&*

I didn't accuse you of being Just Plain Stupid.  I won't be censoring any of this.

I, however, am known for my stupidity, which, of the two, I prefer to be.

Offline Lace

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4858 on: January 15, 2019, 12:12:25 PM »
By 22.20 at least three of the nine knew about Jane's sighting. They didn't seem to inform those searching to concentrate on the area the man was heading towards, however. Matthew went to the Millenium on the off chance that Madeleine had wandered in that direction. He doesn't remember when he learmed of Jane's sighting. Rusell was told by Jane, but it didn't seem to affect where he searched.

 From Russell O'Brian's statement -

 Erm, the next, so, you know, at some point I think I felt, I was starting to feel sort of useless again, just hanging around the apartment, you know, there were a lot of people, you know, going around at this point, so I opted, after the pictures and after a period of time back in the flat and conversations to go away again, erm, and this time I searched over and on towards the Millennium Restaurant, so in a, in a completely different direction to where I had been before.  As I said, I don’t think the, although people, there was some coordination within small groups of individuals, there wasn’t really a systematic route to anyone being searched, so I may have been covering ground that had been done before, but, nonetheless, I chose somewhere that I hadn’t been before, erm, searched along those roads, there’s a few alleys that kind of, well alleys the wrong word, erm, roads that I presume higher up just sort of go, you know, lead out of town, that run parallel to the road that goes up past Millennium, erm, I went round a few of, erm, a couple of these with increasing futility really, and I think despite there being a bit of moonlight, I couldn’t really see very much, erm, there were sort of dog barks and you kind of think, you know, ‘I’m just going to walk into some field of rabid dogs’, so in the end I kind of double back.


Offline Lace

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4859 on: January 15, 2019, 12:14:09 PM »
The Police could have been knocking on doors.   Robert Murat and the other neighbours could have seen something,  they could have seen the abductor passing by.