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Offline kizzy

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5250 on: May 11, 2019, 03:39:06 PM »
So where did amaral get that from... And he's wrong... As usual


Well, wasn't the media/news full of German suspect - a couple of days after he said that.

who knows where he got it from - but IMO he got it right what was to come.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5251 on: May 11, 2019, 03:44:49 PM »
Indeed, the pair are either Roman Catholic or believe in spiritual, psychic mumbo jumbo as & when it suits.

And are not adverse to going to services presided over by an Anglican minister when there was a priest lead mass.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #5252 on: May 11, 2019, 03:56:25 PM »

11th May 2019

MADDIE TEST Madeleine McCann suspect challenged to take lie detector test to prove he’s innocent by top polygraph expert

Don Cargill, president of the European and British Polygraph Association, wants him to show he wasn't involved in the disappearance of the Brit youngster


A CHILD killer identified as a suspect in Madeleine McCann's disappearance has been challenged to take a lie detector test to prove his innocence by a polygraph expert.

Martin Ney, whose name was given to Scotland Yard as a possible suspect, is serving a life sentence for strangling three boys.

The German is said to resemble the photofit of a man seen carrying a child from the Portuguese holiday complex where the youngster vanished.

Don Cargill, president of the European and British Polygraph Association, has told Ney to prove his claim of not being involved in Maddie’s disappearance.

She vanished 12 years ago on May 3, 2007, when her family, from Leicestershire, were holidaying in Praia da Luz, in the Algarve, Portugal.

Parents Gerry and Kate left their three children – including toddler twins Sean and Amelie – sleeping in their apartment while they dined at a tapas bar - 120 metres away.

When Kate returned to check on the kids at around 10pm that evening, she discovered that Maddie was not in her bed and was missing.

Ney, 48, emerged as a key suspect in May 2019 - and it is believed he was in Portugal when Maddie went missing.

He was working for an evangelical church on a project for the homeless, it's claimed.

Mr Cargill insists lie detector tests are 90-95 per cent accurate and would conclusively prove if Ney was telling the truth about not being involved.

TAKE A TEST

The polygraph expert has been involved in two major successes involving lie detectors.

He got farmer Adrian Prout to admit in jail he murdered his missing wife, and proved Liverpool FC fan Michael Shields was innocent of attacking a waiter in Bulgaria.

Mr Cargill, 67, has invited Met Police detectives to contact him to establish if Ney is willing to undergo the 90 minute test, which monitors a patient’s blood pressure, heart and sweat rates, while they answer questions.

He said: “If Ney’s telling the truth, he’s got nothing to hide or fear from me. I think he’d welcome the chance of clearing his name.”

Scotland Yard and Portugal’s Polícia Judiciária have kept the new suspect’s name secret, but former Portuguese cop Gonçalo Amaral claimed he has knowledge of a German being investigated.

He refused to identify Ney by name but says a German suspect was quizzed by PJ detectives as part of their 2008 probe.

Mr Amaral said he was ruled out of the investigation but jailed in Germany for "offences unconnected to the Maddie case".

Mr Cargill said: "Perhaps he was only interested in boys, in which case he should undergo the test to prove he isn’t interested in girls, and didn’t abduct Maddie.”

Paedophiles in British jails take regular lie detector tests when seeking parole, under a new Home Office initiative.

Lie tests are commonly used as evidence in US courts where officials also claim it is 90-95 per cent accurate.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9052060/madeleine-mccann-suspect-martin-ney-lie-detector-test/

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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5253 on: May 11, 2019, 03:58:01 PM »
Now Kate McCann refuses to take a lie detector test to clear her name


Monday 19 November 2007

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/now-kate-mccann-refuses-to-take-a-lie-detector-test-to-clear-her-name-6690085.html

McCann spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "Of course they are not going to take the test. It's inadmissible in Portugal and there are doubts about the accuracy.

"Gerry and Kate don't need to do one as they are telling the truth."
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5254 on: May 11, 2019, 04:03:53 PM »


Martin Ney doesn't need to do a lie detector because he is telling the truth.

If Ney has to do one I think it only fair that Kate & Gerry go first.
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Offline kizzy

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5255 on: May 11, 2019, 04:11:20 PM »
Now Kate McCann refuses to take a lie detector test to clear her name


Monday 19 November 2007

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/now-kate-mccann-refuses-to-take-a-lie-detector-test-to-clear-her-name-6690085.html

McCann spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "Of course they are not going to take the test. It's inadmissible in Portugal and there are doubts about the accuracy.

"Gerry and Kate don't need to do one as they are telling the truth."

 Aw lol -  god you can't make it up.

So if Ney refuses they will probably use that as guilt.

Yet mcns don't have to - yet they the ones who are still not cleared of any involvement.

Offline Brietta

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« Reply #5256 on: May 11, 2019, 04:32:47 PM »
Sigh ... the old rehash of the lie detector idiocy ... must be that time of year again when we go through every fable imaginable then get back to the very beginning again.

Maybe a deal should be made with Cristovao about lie detectors et al ... he is after all the only one connected to Madeleine's case currently the focus of serious criminal charges in the Portuguese courts.
If memory serves me well one of which was kidnapping.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #5257 on: May 11, 2019, 04:34:20 PM »
Amaral said SY were winding up the case and would blame a German already in prison as a Patsy..

SY... To my knowledge are not winding up the case and Ney is not a suspect... So amarals quite wrong

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5258 on: May 11, 2019, 06:49:07 PM »
I'd like more use of the polygraph test. In the US it is used a lot.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #5259 on: May 11, 2019, 06:50:11 PM »
I'd like more use of the polygraph test. In the US it is used a lot.
That’s not a very good reason IMO.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5260 on: May 11, 2019, 06:53:59 PM »
I'd like more use of the polygraph test. In the US it is used a lot.

Evidently  it's easy to beat so is unreliable

Offline Robittybob1

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« Reply #5261 on: May 11, 2019, 07:04:51 PM »
That’s not a very good reason IMO.
It is very useful to sort out those that the police should focus on in the investigation.
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Offline Robittybob1

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« Reply #5262 on: May 11, 2019, 07:07:24 PM »
Evidently  it's easy to beat so is unreliable
Repeat the test at least 3 times then.    If there is no evidence plus 3 clear polygraph results, why  keep focusing on that person?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #5263 on: May 11, 2019, 07:08:58 PM »
It is very useful to sort out those that the police should focus on in the investigation.
Did you know that innocent people have failed polygraph tests?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5264 on: May 11, 2019, 07:09:09 PM »
Repeat the test at least 3 times then.    If there is no evidence plus 3 clear polygraph results, why  keep focusing on that person?
Best rely on evidence... If it was reliable... It would be widely used