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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5280 on: May 11, 2019, 08:47:31 PM »
your comment was...

It is very useful to sort out those that the police should focus on in the investigation.

thats opinion as fact...correct your post
That is my opinion and a fact.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5281 on: May 11, 2019, 08:48:08 PM »
That is my opinion and a fact.

no its not a fact

Offline barrier

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5282 on: May 11, 2019, 08:49:19 PM »
Delete.
WS already posted it.

11th May 2019

MADDIE TEST Madeleine McCann suspect challenged to take lie detector test to prove he’s innocent by top polygraph expert

Don Cargill, president of the European and British Polygraph Association, wants him to show he wasn't involved in the disappearance of the Brit youngster


A CHILD killer identified as a suspect in Madeleine McCann's disappearance has been challenged to take a lie detector test to prove his innocence by a polygraph expert.

Martin Ney, whose name was given to Scotland Yard as a possible suspect, is serving a life sentence for strangling three boys.

The German is said to resemble the photofit of a man seen carrying a child from the Portuguese holiday complex where the youngster vanished.

Don Cargill, president of the European and British Polygraph Association, has told Ney to prove his claim of not being involved in Maddie’s disappearance.

She vanished 12 years ago on May 3, 2007, when her family, from Leicestershire, were holidaying in Praia da Luz, in the Algarve, Portugal.

Parents Gerry and Kate left their three children – including toddler twins Sean and Amelie – sleeping in their apartment while they dined at a tapas bar - 120 metres away.

When Kate returned to check on the kids at around 10pm that evening, she discovered that Maddie was not in her bed and was missing.

Ney, 48, emerged as a key suspect in May 2019 - and it is believed he was in Portugal when Maddie went missing.

He was working for an evangelical church on a project for the homeless, it's claimed.

Mr Cargill insists lie detector tests are 90-95 per cent accurate and would conclusively prove if Ney was telling the truth about not being involved.

TAKE A TEST

The polygraph expert has been involved in two major successes involving lie detectors.

He got farmer Adrian Prout to admit in jail he murdered his missing wife, and proved Liverpool FC fan Michael Shields was innocent of attacking a waiter in Bulgaria.

Mr Cargill, 67, has invited Met Police detectives to contact him to establish if Ney is willing to undergo the 90 minute test, which monitors a patient’s blood pressure, heart and sweat rates, while they answer questions.

He said: “If Ney’s telling the truth, he’s got nothing to hide or fear from me. I think he’d welcome the chance of clearing his name.”

Scotland Yard and Portugal’s Polícia Judiciária have kept the new suspect’s name secret, but former Portuguese cop Gonçalo Amaral claimed he has knowledge of a German being investigated.

He refused to identify Ney by name but says a German suspect was quizzed by PJ detectives as part of their 2008 probe.

Mr Amaral said he was ruled out of the investigation but jailed in Germany for "offences unconnected to the Maddie case".

Mr Cargill said: "Perhaps he was only interested in boys, in which case he should undergo the test to prove he isn’t interested in girls, and didn’t abduct Maddie.”

Paedophiles in British jails take regular lie detector tests when seeking parole, under a new Home Office initiative.

Lie tests are commonly used as evidence in US courts where officials also claim it is 90-95 per cent accurate.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9052060/madeleine-mccann-suspect-martin-ney-lie-detector-test/
« Last Edit: May 11, 2019, 08:52:32 PM by barrier »
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5283 on: May 11, 2019, 08:50:37 PM »
Talking of polygraphs the Sun has come out with some bollocks,its not up to anyone to prove their innocence its up to a prosecution to prove guilt.

MADDIE TEST Madeleine McCann suspect challenged to take lie detector test to prove he’s innocent by top polygraph expert


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9052060/madeleine-mccann-suspect-martin-ney-lie-detector-test/

according to rob this is a very sensible suggestion...obviously its rubbish

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5284 on: May 11, 2019, 08:53:45 PM »
according to rob this is a very sensible suggestion...obviously its rubbish
Are you happy?
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5285 on: May 11, 2019, 09:00:02 PM »
Delete.
WS already posted it.

You have to get up pretty early to beat me. I have insomnia.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5286 on: May 11, 2019, 09:03:32 PM »
she may have committed suicide due to her persoanl problems anyway...i think its very bad taste to make such apost to try and make your point...let brenda RIP...if you have any compassion or morals

Also, she may not have commited suicide had Martin Brunt picked on someone his own size.
But I agree, the post was made in poor taste just to make a point, but then, when have I ever done tasteful?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5287 on: May 11, 2019, 09:07:10 PM »
Also, she may not have commited suicide had Martin Brunt picked on someone his own size.
But I agree, the post was made in poor taste just to make a point, but then, when have I ever done tasteful?
at least you admit it...Brenda had a history of psychiatric problems...had attempted suicide before ..and committed suicide on he estranged sons birthday...how sad ...let her RIP ...second request

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5288 on: May 11, 2019, 09:41:18 PM »
Have you got an example where innocent suspects were disadvantaged?    They talk of the court of public opinion.  Is that court affected by the polygraph outcome?

Snip
In 2003, Gary Ridgway admitted he was the Green River Killer, having murdered 49 women in the Seattle area. Ridgway had passed a lie detector test in 1987, while another man - who turned out to be innocent - failed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22467640
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5289 on: May 11, 2019, 09:48:37 PM »
no innocent person in their right mind would take a polygraph...they have nothing to gain.... a guilty person may thin they coud beat it...i could certainly beat a ploygraph...I can lower my heart rate and blood pressure at,will
« Last Edit: May 11, 2019, 09:52:43 PM by Davel »

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5290 on: May 11, 2019, 09:49:42 PM »
Snip
In 2003, Gary Ridgway admitted he was the Green River Killer, having murdered 49 women in the Seattle area. Ridgway had passed a lie detector test in 1987, while another man - who turned out to be innocent - failed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22467640
I'm not saying the test is 100% accurate.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #5291 on: May 11, 2019, 10:19:06 PM »
Brenda Leyland might still be alive had the McCanns passed a polygraph.
???
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Offline faithlilly

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« Reply #5292 on: May 12, 2019, 01:11:42 AM »
no innocent person in their right mind would take a polygraph...they have nothing to gain.... a guilty person may thin they coud beat it...i could certainly beat a ploygraph...I can lower my heart rate and blood pressure at,will

Bless. You do make me laugh Davel.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5293 on: May 12, 2019, 01:21:54 AM »
no innocent person in their right mind would take a polygraph...they have nothing to gain.... a guilty person may thin they coud beat it...i could certainly beat a ploygraph...I can lower my heart rate and blood pressure at,will

So can I, as it happens.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5294 on: May 12, 2019, 11:44:10 AM »
So can I, as it happens.

I don’t have to....mine’s a swinging brick.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

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