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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5460 on: May 20, 2019, 08:34:16 PM »
Just like Mr Smith then.

When was the Smith's sighting ruled out?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5461 on: May 20, 2019, 08:35:09 PM »
When was the Smith's sighting ruled out?
Who said it was?
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5462 on: May 20, 2019, 08:37:59 PM »
And lest we forget while the details she was gabbing about were still under judicial secrecy.

Oh but she's alright with it now.

She was adamant she might have witnessed Maddie's abduction, SY have said they're almost certain she didn't & she's fine with that.

Why won't Jane say anything?  For Maddie's sake!  8)><(
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Offline The General

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5463 on: May 20, 2019, 09:03:06 PM »
Oh but she's alright with it now.

She was adamant she might have witnessed Maddie's abduction, SY have said they're almost certain she didn't & she's fine with that.

Why won't Jane say anything?  For Maddie's sake!  8)><(
To be honest, I don't think she comes across as a Mensa stalwart. She may be a bit confused that they didn't catch Mr. Eggman.

If that would have been a quip directed at Amaral, I doubt the hatchet would have been wielded.
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Offline Erngath

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5464 on: May 20, 2019, 10:34:47 PM »
1)  Directions
All the exits from 5A were to the west of the fathers flat.   

Tannerman was coming from the west, the correct direction for anyone leaving 5A ...   But the father and little girl were coming from OC evening creche, directly in the east

Tannerman coming from the opposite direction to the anonymous father.   How does that equate to the situation ?


2)  Different times too, IIRC


https://youtu.be/OZ8jmdWlB8Y   

The two images seemed to be of different types of men.
i)  Tannerman athletic and casual, youthful looking, fairly long striding (especially in some of the earlier images.)  And slicked back, close to the head, straightish hair

ii)  The father looking like a professional on holiday; rather stiff and too upright altogether … can you imagine any father with child carrying experienced father carrying his daughter any distance at all, as Jane Tanner witnessed her little girl being carried?   With the child across his chest and over both sets of arms?  Altogether too exhausting for anyone but Charles Atlas and the father was hardly a Charles Atlas type and probably wouldn't want to be either ! This father  had a head full of  soft wavy hair.


Very different types and the directions are wrong .

The times too

Sorry, but I think that CI Redwood got this one wrong.   I don't think that the father was Janes Tannerman

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5465 on: May 20, 2019, 10:37:47 PM »
Oh but she's alright with it now.

She was adamant she might have witnessed Maddie's abduction, SY have said they're almost certain she didn't & she's fine with that.

Why won't Jane say anything?  For Maddie's sake!  8)><(
What is it about sceptics who seem to think the McCanns and their friends should be updating them via the media on a regular basis?
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Offline sadie

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5466 on: May 20, 2019, 11:26:12 PM »
Delighted to see you posting again.

Thankyou Erngath

But I am not entering any battles atm … and it will be rare, popping a bit of logic in now and then

Offline misty

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5467 on: May 21, 2019, 12:37:13 PM »
Didn't  you watch CW in October 2013 - when they ruled out Tannerman and their focus shifted to Smithman? They showed photos of the father aka Tannerman.

Again - where is the direct quote from Redwood saying that Tannerman had been ruled out & was no longer a person of interest?
If you watch Amaral's documentary O Enigma, you will see that Amaral portrays Tannerman becoming Smithman. Why would he do that?

Offline sadie

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5468 on: May 21, 2019, 01:38:22 PM »
1)  Directions
All the exits from 5A were to the west of the fathers flat.   

Tannerman was coming from the west, the correct direction for anyone leaving 5A ...   But the father and little girl were coming from OC evening creche, directly in the east

Tannerman coming from the opposite direction to the anonymous father.   How does that equate to the situation ?


2)  Different times too, IIRC


https://youtu.be/OZ8jmdWlB8Y   

The two images seemed to be of different types of men.
i)  Tannerman athletic and casual, youthful looking, fairly long striding (especially in some of the earlier images.)  And slicked back, close to the head, straightish hair

ii)  The father looking like a professional on holiday; rather stiff and too upright altogether … can you imagine any father with child carrying experienced father carrying his daughter any distance at all, as Jane Tanner witnessed her little girl being carried?   With the child across his chest and over both sets of arms?  Altogether too exhausting for anyone but Charles Atlas and the father was hardly a Charles Atlas type and probably wouldn't want to be either ! This father  had a head full of  soft wavy hair.


Very different types and the directions are wrong .

The times too

Sorry, but I think that CI Redwood got this one wrong.   I don't think that the father was Janes Tannerman

I still think that Janes Tannerman did his dirty deed immediately after Gerry left and as he was talking to Jez.  There is a whole section about my mini theory about the time of the actual abduction and how it could have been achieved.   This was in one of the threads a couple of years ago. 

Thanks to her searching questions, which challenged me to think deeper, Gunit helped me with it, and we developed a scenario that could very well have happened, with a number of back up points which confirmed that.  Thanks G for your help.

Nobody could find any flaws with it IIRC, but it soon got drowned out by people who it seems cannot bear for The Mccanns to be innocent


No-one knows if my theory is what happened but at least we proved that it is totally feasible and could have happened.     Let's not forget that.   

Maybe the theory should be revisited, if it hasn't been wiped?  Some people have short memories if they are so inclined!

Just to remind people

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5469 on: May 21, 2019, 01:49:57 PM »
Not possible. No open window or moving curtains at that time.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline misty

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5470 on: May 21, 2019, 02:04:48 PM »
Not possible. No open window or moving curtains at that time.

You mean no window or shutter was reportedly noticed open, which doesn't mean they weren't open.

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5471 on: May 21, 2019, 03:20:16 PM »
I still think that Janes Tannerman did his dirty deed immediately after Gerry left and as he was talking to Jez.  There is a whole section about my mini theory about the time of the actual abduction and how it could have been achieved.   This was in one of the threads a couple of years ago. 

Thanks to her searching questions, which challenged me to think deeper, Gunit helped me with it, and we developed a scenario that could very well have happened, with a number of back up points which confirmed that.  Thanks G for your help.

Nobody could find any flaws with it IIRC, but it soon got drowned out by people who it seems cannot bear for The Mccanns to be innocent


No-one knows if my theory is what happened but at least we proved that it is totally feasible and could have happened.     Let's not forget that.   

Maybe the theory should be revisited, if it hasn't been wiped?  Some people have short memories if they are so inclined!

Just to remind people
Sadie's theory, the watcher and a getaway car.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1327.msg37641#msg37641
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5472 on: May 21, 2019, 06:47:53 PM »
What getaway car? Nobody saw one.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5473 on: May 21, 2019, 07:03:52 PM »
I still think that Janes Tannerman did his dirty deed immediately after Gerry left and as he was talking to Jez.  There is a whole section about my mini theory about the time of the actual abduction and how it could have been achieved.   This was in one of the threads a couple of years ago. 

Thanks to her searching questions, which challenged me to think deeper, Gunit helped me with it, and we developed a scenario that could very well have happened, with a number of back up points which confirmed that.  Thanks G for your help.

Nobody could find any flaws with it IIRC, but it soon got drowned out by people who it seems cannot bear for The Mccanns to be innocent


No-one knows if my theory is what happened but at least we proved that it is totally feasible and could have happened.     Let's not forget that.   

Maybe the theory should be revisited, if it hasn't been wiped?  Some people have short memories if they are so inclined!

Just to remind people

For the record Sadie's story has no evidence to support it in my opinion.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5474 on: May 21, 2019, 07:06:00 PM »
For the record Sadie's story has no evidence to support it in my opinion.
Neither does amarals