Wandering Off Topic

[G-Unit]

I wonder why Gerry McCann said David Payne checked the children in 5A on Wednesday 2nd? That seems to have passed beneath the radar too.

[Erngath]

I wonder why Gerry McCann said David Payne checked the children in 5A on Wednesday 2nd? That seems to have passed beneath the radar too.

Why do you believe Gerry said that ?

[G-Unit]

Why do you believe Gerry said that ?

Why not?

[Erngath]

Why not?

When you see these discrepancies do you have the opinion that Someone was deliberately lying?
Or just mistaken in their recall?

[G-Unit]

When you see these discrepancies do you have the opinion that Someone was deliberately lying?
Or just mistaken in their recall?

There appear to be two facts that most of the group agree on.

1. The Paynes had a state of the art baby monitor.
2. Therefore they never took part in the child checking routine.

So either DP checked the McCann children and only Gerry McCann knew about it or he didn't.

[Erngath]

There appear to be two facts that most of the group agree on.

1. The Paynes had a state of the art baby monitor.
2. Therefore they never took part in the child checking routine.

So either DP checked the McCann children and only Gerry McCann knew about it or he didn't.

I appreciate that you have concerns about what is recorded in the files.
Hopefully both current investigations have investigated these discrepancies.

[Wonderfulspam]

Month long search of landfill continues for 6-year-old believed murdered by relatives



Police say Duke Flores, 6, was killed by his mother and aunt and dumped in a trash can. (Apple Valley Police Department)



More than a month after the disappearance of a 6-year-old Apple Valley boy, police continue to comb an area landfill for the remains of Duke Flores, who authorities believe was killed by his mother and aunt.

On Monday morning, detectives resumed searching a Victorville landfill, where they think the boy’s body was dumped.

Dozens of people — including homicide detectives, San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department volunteers and landfill staff — have joined in the search, which is focused on an area that’s 70 feet wide, 70 feet long and 10 feet deep. Search dogs also are being used to scour the trash site.

The Sheriff’s Department has given daily updates of the ongoing search on Twitter, but so far, nothing has been found, sheriff’s spokeswoman Jodi Miller said.

The search for the boy began in late April, when authorities responded to family members’ request for a welfare check at his Apple Valley home. When deputies arrived, Duke’s mother, 29-year-old Jackee Contreras, said she had not seen him for about two weeks.

Detectives later arrested and charged Contreras, along with her twin sister, Jennifer Contreras, in connection with the boy’s disappearance. Both women remain in custody on murder charges and have not yet entered a plea.

Since April 29, detectives have been picking through the 1,200 tons of trash in the search area, beginning about 7 a.m. daily and ending at 5 p.m., Miller said.

No trash is being dumped or moved in the area while the search continues.

“It’s a very meticulous search,” Miller said, “so therefore it takes some time.”

Over the weekend, Apple Valley community members gathered for a vigil to remember Duke, although most did not know the boy.

“I’m just so tired of them doing this to the children,” Apple Valley resident Robert Collins told KCAL-TV Channel 9. “I just can’t fathom how evil somebody has to be to either kidnap, murder or harm a child.”

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-landfill-search-duke-flores-20190520-story.html

[Erngath]

Month long search of landfill continues for 6-year-old believed murdered by relatives



Police say Duke Flores, 6, was killed by his mother and aunt and dumped in a trash can. (Apple Valley Police Department)



More than a month after the disappearance of a 6-year-old Apple Valley boy, police continue to comb an area landfill for the remains of Duke Flores, who authorities believe was killed by his mother and aunt.

On Monday morning, detectives resumed searching a Victorville landfill, where they think the boy’s body was dumped.

Dozens of people — including homicide detectives, San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department volunteers and landfill staff — have joined in the search, which is focused on an area that’s 70 feet wide, 70 feet long and 10 feet deep. Search dogs also are being used to scour the trash site.

The Sheriff’s Department has given daily updates of the ongoing search on Twitter, but so far, nothing has been found, sheriff’s spokeswoman Jodi Miller said.

The search for the boy began in late April, when authorities responded to family members’ request for a welfare check at his Apple Valley home. When deputies arrived, Duke’s mother, 29-year-old Jackee Contreras, said she had not seen him for about two weeks.

Detectives later arrested and charged Contreras, along with her twin sister, Jennifer Contreras, in connection with the boy’s disappearance. Both women remain in custody on murder charges and have not yet entered a plea.

Since April 29, detectives have been picking through the 1,200 tons of trash in the search area, beginning about 7 a.m. daily and ending at 5 p.m., Miller said.

No trash is being dumped or moved in the area while the search continues.

“It’s a very meticulous search,” Miller said, “so therefore it takes some time.”

Over the weekend, Apple Valley community members gathered for a vigil to remember Duke, although most did not know the boy.

“I’m just so tired of them doing this to the children,” Apple Valley resident Robert Collins told KCAL-TV Channel 9. “I just can’t fathom how evil somebody has to be to either kidnap, murder or harm a child.”

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-landfill-search-duke-flores-20190520-story.html

Why bring this child's death to this forum?
Don't you have any regard for his short life ?
What point are you making ?

[Robittybob1]

Why bring this child's death to this forum?
Don't you have any regard for his short life ?
What point are you making ?

It shows how it might be possible to dispose of a body through a landfill operation, and then how difficult it is to find a body disposed of this way.

[Wonderfulspam]

Why bring this child's death to this forum?
Don't you have any regard for his short life ?
What point are you making ?

See Robitty's post, & I fail to see how sharing a news article equates to disregard for the child.

I feel sorry for the poor kid, as it happens.

[Erngath]

See Robitty's post, & I fail to see how sharing a news article equates to disregard for the child.

I feel sorry for the poor kid, as it happens.

Yes  I know you do.
It's just that  sometimes it does seem that examples of a child's death when members of his/her family are involved are brought to the forum as some evidence that Madeleine's family are involved in her disappearance.

[Erngath]

It shows how it might be possible to dispose of a body through a landfill operation, and then how difficult it is to find a body disposed of this way.

And you believe or have the opinion that this is relevant to Madeleine's disappearance?

[Brietta]

Why bring this child's death to this forum?
Don't you have any regard for his short life ?
What point are you making ?

I have to admit this constant theme perplexes me.  None of the dead or missing children's cases paraded through the forum bear any relation to Madeleine's case and are therefore irrelevant even on an 'off topic' thread such as this one.

[Wonderfulspam]

I have to admit this constant theme perplexes me.  None of the dead or missing children's cases paraded through the forum bear any relation to Madeleine's case and are therefore irrelevant even on an 'off topic' thread such as this one.

The Maleah Davis case certainly does.

She is still missing, a cadaver dog alerted, & the last person to see her claims she was abducted.

[ShiningInLuz]

Why bring this child's death to this forum?
Don't you have any regard for his short life ?
What point are you making ?

Glaringly obvious.