Wandering Off Topic

[Mr Gray]

Oh so am I.  There are few organisations on planet earth that have been found guilty of so much but still walk away individually and collectively unscathed.

I think that's a ridiculous statement...with little fact to support it.. And that puts, everything you say into perspective

[Holly Goodhead]

I think that's a ridiculous statement...with little fact to support it.. And that puts, everything you say into perspective

Hmmm now let me think... MacPherson report, Operation Tiberius and even the MET's anti-corruption unit faces investigation and these are just 3 that spring to mind.  The MET has a long history of corruption, incompetence and wrongdoing. 

[Holly Goodhead]

Hmmm now let me think... MacPherson report, Operation Tiberius and even the MET's anti-corruption unit faces investigation and these are just 3 that spring to mind.  The MET has a long history of corruption, incompetence and wrongdoing.

The lead detective on the murder of Stephen Cameron hand-picked a few officers he could trust fearing many would tip off Noye.

[Mr Gray]

Hmmm now let me think... MacPherson report, Operation Tiberius and even the MET's anti-corruption unit faces investigation and these are just 3 that spring to mind.  The MET has a long history of corruption, incompetence and wrongdoing.

your examples dont support your claim.

You said there are few organisations on planet earth. You can criticise the MET but what knowledge do you have of the record of other police forces worldwide to compare...none I would think. THe met is a massive organisation and its bound to have failures but to suggest other police forces are not similar or better when you have no evidence is ridiculous and wrong. It may well be one of the most successful and best run police forces in the world but without data from other forces we just dont know

[Mr Gray]

The lead detective on the murder of Stephen Cameron hand-picked a few officers he could trust fearing many would tip off Noye.

are you making the assumption that other police forces dont have similar problems or worse

[Holly Goodhead]

are you making the assumption that other police forces dont have similar problems or worse

We are talking about the force I sent my email to are we not?

[Holly Goodhead]

your examples dont support your claim.

You said there are few organisations on planet earth. You can criticise the MET but what knowledge do you have of the record of other police forces worldwide to compare...none I would think. THe met is a massive organisation and its bound to have failures but to suggest other police forces are not similar or better when you have no evidence is ridiculous and wrong. It may well be one of the most successful and best run police forces in the world but without data from other forces we just dont know

We are talking about the recipients of my email are we not?

[Mr Gray]

We are talking about the recipients of my email are we not?

your post..There are few organisations on planet earth

as I said...the met may have had some problems but to compare them to all the organisations on planet erath is ridiculous. The Met may well be one of the best forces in the world

[Holly Goodhead]

your post..There are few organisations on planet earth

as I said...the met may have had some problems but to compare them to all the organisations on planet erath is ridiculous. The Met may well be one of the best forces in the world

And your post:

I think that's a ridiculous statement...with little fact to support it.. And that puts, everything you say into perspective

What is ridiculous in calling the MET out when it has a long history of corruption, incompetence and wrongdoing. 

[Mr Gray]

And your post:

I think that's a ridiculous statement...with little fact to support it.. And that puts, everything you say into perspective

What is ridiculous in calling the MET out when it has a long history of corruption, incompetence and wrongdoing.

Nothing... Its when you imply it ranks lowly compared to all the other organisations in the while world.
You feel you've succeeded where the met had failed..I think you are extremely misguided

[Holly Goodhead]

Nothing... Its when you imply it ranks lowly compared to all the other organisations in the while world.
You feel you've succeeded where the met had failed..I think you are extremely misguided

Ok lets stick with UK.  Can you name any other organisation whether publicly or privately owned that has a long history of corruption, incompetence and wrongdoing that exceeds the MET?  My former industry, financial services, was not without its problems but I do not know of any single organisation that could be put in the same category as the MET. 

Now I have a garden shed to finish off painting, willow, and generally tidying up.

[Mr Gray]

Ok lets stick with UK.  Can you name any other organisation whether publicly or privately owned that has a long history of corruption, incompetence and wrongdoing that exceeds the MET?  My former industry, financial services, was not without its problems but I do not know of any single organisation that could be put in the same category as the MET. 

Now I have a garden shed to finish off painting, willow, and generally tidying up.

You were referring to the whole world so there must be thousands... The Catholic church for one.. But it's an off topic pointless exercise

[Holly Goodhead]

You were referring to the whole world so there must be thousands... The Catholic church for one.. But it's an off topic pointless exercise

Back for a t break with a g in front of it 

Ok lets agree the MPS is not equivalent of the British army, navy or raf.

[John]

At the time of MM's disappearance 5A was owned by Mrs Ruth McCann whose husband passed away in NW England during 2006.  Prior to this I believe it was owned by Tasmin Sillence's grandmother who passed away during ownership of the property (1994 - 2002).  I've no idea whether or not the grandmother passed away inside the apartment but it seems to me at the very least the potential existed for odour contamination from both sets of relatives.

I agree Holly, imo the cadaver dog most probably picked up on a substance for which he was trained so some connection to former deceased occupants of 5a is an absolute distinct possibility. It was remiss of the PJ not to have followed up on this.

[misty]

Thanks.  Is this definitely for MW OC @ PDL 2007 season?  If so its clear the baby listening service is unavailable by its  absence.  Hence I guess the reason for the Paynes taking the monitor.

Are you able to upload a MW hol where the baby listening service is available so we can see how it is marketed?

Here is the link to MW brochure on website @04/1/07.

https://web.archive.org/web/20070105161139/http://www.markwarner.co.uk/

Click on "Summer" & it will take you to another page where Childcare is listed. Click on Childcare the Further Details & you will see how the child listening service was marketed.