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Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #6045 on: September 08, 2019, 09:04:52 AM »
The 'third person' may not have been there, but we know he agreed with Jane. What you and the person who said the position of the men was immaterial are misunderstanding is that when witnesses disagree one of them is wrong. Therefore one of them could be wrong about other things too.

I know Redwood never named anyone; was it you who mentioned the name? I said 'if'. I'm sure the Crimewatch programme said the child had been collected from the night cheche, so whoever it was they were heading towards the creche, not away from it.

For those who need to see a map here is one with certain areas marked. Block 4 (where Totman stayed) is labelled next to block 5, which is circled) and the night creche was above main reception. (4 & 5 are the Mini and Baby clubs which were also there in the daytime)




What do you mean by "one of them is wrong".  The witnesses make their statements as they see what happened it is then down to the police to collate and evaluate the evidence from there.

Jane Tanner is the only witness who witnessed and reported as soon as she could that she had witnessed a man carrying a child from the direction of the location from which she later discovered a child had gone missing.

Why did the police not follow through on that one?

Missing child.  Unidentified man carrying a child from the location.  No yellow alert given the witness sighting but continuing the search for a lost or wandered child ... and briefing the press one might say immediately on a "badly told story" setting the scene for years and years of pain and distress.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #6046 on: September 08, 2019, 09:08:05 AM »
I've been on about Redwood not identifying any one by name for a long time,but what Redwood says is:

The work that we have done is to identify a british holiday maker who was returning to their apartment through the exactly same area Jane tanner saw which up till this point believed to have been Madeleine abductor.

Plain as day, identified tannerman.

https://youtu.be/1-4fp4kPi60

Funny how native English speakers can put very different interpretations on the English word, n'est-ce pas?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline barrier

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #6047 on: September 08, 2019, 09:15:03 AM »
Funny how native English speakers can put very different interpretations on the English word, n'est-ce pas?

Best take it up with Scotland yard they made the identification.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #6048 on: September 08, 2019, 09:21:50 AM »
What do you mean by "one of them is wrong".  The witnesses make their statements as they see what happened it is then down to the police to collate and evaluate the evidence from there.

Jane Tanner is the only witness who witnessed and reported as soon as she could that she had witnessed a man carrying a child from the direction of the location from which she later discovered a child had gone missing.

Why did the police not follow through on that one?

Missing child.  Unidentified man carrying a child from the location.  No yellow alert given the witness sighting but continuing the search for a lost or wandered child ... and briefing the press one might say immediately on a "badly told story" setting the scene for years and years of pain and distress.

If people disagree about which side of the road an incident took place one of them is definitely wrong because one of them didn't report what actually happened. I don't know who was wrong or why, I just know that one of them was.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #6049 on: September 08, 2019, 01:14:53 PM »
The 'third person' may not have been there, but we know he agreed with Jane. What you and the person who said the position of the men was immaterial are misunderstanding is that when witnesses disagree one of them is wrong. Therefore one of them could be wrong about other things too.

I know Redwood never named anyone; was it you who mentioned the name? I said 'if'. I'm sure the Crimewatch programme said the child had been collected from the night cheche, so whoever it was they were heading towards the creche, not away from it.

For those who need to see a map here is one with certain areas marked. Block 4 (where Totman stayed) is labelled next to block 5, which is circled) and the night creche was above main reception. (4 & 5 are the Mini and Baby clubs which were also there in the daytime)





"The 'third person' may not have been there, but we know he agreed with Jane. What you and the person who said the position of the men was immaterial are misunderstanding is that when witnesses disagree one of them is wrong. Therefore one of them could be wrong about other things too."

And we do know Gerry did give different versions of incidents. As an example. Bed time: Kate  last sight left  Maddie all snuggled up in bed as it was a cold night.
 Gerry last sight he saw Maddie on top of the covers as  he left her at bedtime as it was a warm night.


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Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #6050 on: September 08, 2019, 02:05:47 PM »
Best take it up with Scotland yard they made the identification.
Indeed they did.
The problem seems to be they didn't appear to tell the whole story by passing it on and you seem to have missed the gist of what was said.

Gunit failed to provide me with a cite for what you have said in your post; can you do any better?  When did Scotland Yard put the name of the individual to whom you refer into the public domain?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline barrier

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #6051 on: September 08, 2019, 02:07:52 PM »
Indeed they did.
The problem seems to be they didn't appear to tell the whole story by passing it on and you seem to have missed the gist of what was said.

Gunit failed to provide me with a cite for what you have said in your post; can you do any better?  When did Scotland Yard put the name of the individual to whom you refer into the public domain?


I've never claimed they have,I've always said they have identified who it was,ongoing investigation why would you expect them to name him.What we do know is he never saw anything suspicious that is why OG moved onto Smithman,always back to him,he's the key imo.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #6052 on: September 08, 2019, 02:17:14 PM »

I've never claimed they have,I've always said they have identified who it was,ongoing investigation why would you expect them to name him.What we do know is he never saw anything suspicious that is why OG moved onto Smithman,always back to him,he's the key imo.

Please refer to your speculations as just your opinion.  Unless SY have opened a direct line only to you of exactly what they are doing and why they are doing it, which I really don't think they have
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline The General

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #6053 on: September 08, 2019, 03:01:13 PM »
Please refer to your speculations as just your opinion.  Unless SY have opened a direct line only to you of exactly what they are doing and why they are doing it, which I really don't think they have
Please refer to your speculations as just your opinion.
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Offline barrier

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #6054 on: September 08, 2019, 04:33:40 PM »

I've never claimed they have,I've always said they have identified who it was,ongoing investigation why would you expect them to name him.What we do know is he never saw anything suspicious that is why OG moved onto Smithman,always back to him,he's the key imo.

Please refer to your speculations as just your opinion.  Unless SY have opened a direct line only to you of exactly what they are doing and why they are doing it, which I really don't think they have

Could have swore imo means just that.

Still its not speculation Redwood said it himself.

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The work that we have done is to identify a british holiday maker who was returning to their apartment through the exactly same area Jane tanner saw which up till this point believed to have been Madeleine abductor.

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And its that second sighting with a child in his arms that we are now really keen to try and indentify.

So unless its known of another sighting then what I have posted using Mr Andy Redwood as my source then its far from speculation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-4fp4kPi60&feature=youtu.be
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Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #6055 on: September 08, 2019, 05:10:32 PM »
Please refer to your speculations as just your opinion.

What speculation would that be? Certainly not regarding anything I have posted regarding Jane Tanner or what she witnessed unless you are calling Jane's testimony into question?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #6056 on: September 08, 2019, 05:14:23 PM »
Could have swore imo means just that.

Still its not speculation Redwood said it himself.

Adding :
So unless its known of another sighting then what I have posted using Mr Andy Redwood as my source then its far from speculation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-4fp4kPi60&feature=youtu.be

I think you are totally misunderstanding the information DCI Redwood imparted in his public statement.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline The General

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #6057 on: September 08, 2019, 05:17:26 PM »
What speculation would that be? Certainly not regarding anything I have posted regarding Jane Tanner or what she witnessed unless you are calling Jane's testimony into question?
Unless SY have opened a direct line only to you of exactly what they are doing and why they are doing it, which I really don't think they have

This.
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Offline The General

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #6058 on: September 08, 2019, 05:18:46 PM »
I think you are totally misunderstanding the information DCI Redwood imparted in his public statement.
Why don't you enlighten us with your obviously superior grasp of Redwood's statement?
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Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #6059 on: September 08, 2019, 05:31:42 PM »
Why don't you enlighten us with your obviously superior grasp of Redwood's statement?

I generally find WindUpMerchants tremendously tiresome.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....