Wandering Off Topic

[Holly Goodhead]

I never took much notice of him, then I saw Piers Morgan interviewing him. He never skimps or misses his training no matter what. I have the feeling that Andy Murray is the same. Talent is no longer enough these days.

I think the fact a hard taskmaster like Sir Alex Ferguson only has good things to say about CR says it all.

If you read up about any top flight sports person the sacrifices they have to make and hours they put in are phenomenal. 

My parents lived near Paula Radcliffe and I recall one Christmas day we were off to visit my bro around lunch time and saw PR out running. 

[G-Unit]

I think the fact a hard taskmaster like Sir Alex Ferguson only has good things to say about CR says it all.

If you read up about any top flight sports person the sacrifices they have to make and hours they put in are phenomenal. 

My parents lived near Paula Radcliffe and I recall one Christmas day we were off to visit my bro around lunch time and saw PR out running.

My grandson-in-law has just had the same hip operation as Murray. The speed that Murray got over it was phenominal. I imagine his pain threshhold is very high; the op is more painful than a hip replacement.

[Anthro]

Cheslin Kolbe (RWC) is a cousin of Wayde van Niekerk. Talent, seemingly runs in their genes. Wayde lives in the same wildlife estate that me and my family do. Proudly South African.

[misty]

https://www.portugalresident.com/young-welsh-woman-illegally-jailed-for-four-months-in-portugal-wins-e55000-in-civil-damages/
Young Welsh woman ‘illegally jailed for four months in Portugal wins €55,000 in civil damages
By portugalresident -6th November 2019
 
A young Welsh woman illegally jailed in Portugal for four truly miserable months has seen a Portuguese judge award her €55,000 in civil damages.

Sophie Grey, 25, was refused bail back in the summer of 2017 for the simple reason that she didn’t have a fixed address here.

Her family were fully prepared to post bail/ pay for Sophie to rent a place to stay but public prosecutors argued that she posed a flight risk, and the judge hearing her case agreed (click here).

It took four months of pressure, and an appeal against the first judge’s ruling, before Sophie was finally freed, to remain in Portugal until her case came to trial.

Even that was ‘an outrage’ according to her family, as Sophie was condemned to six-months in jail, suspended, for assaulting a police officer who told the court that she didn’t mean to hit him “she was just flailing her arms around”.

At the time, Roger Grey – Sophie’s father – told his local paper that the family was considering seeking compensation as they felt the whole situation had been dealt with appallingly, and more importantly, illegally (click here).

At some point last year, Sophie officially lodged a civil case for damages against the Portuguese State, maintaining this last point – and this week Público reveals that a female judge at Lisbon’s central civil court has found in her favour.

Say reports, judge Isabel Lourenço agreed that Sophie Grey’s incarceration was illegal as it “seriously compromised her personal integrity because for four months she was imprisoned a long way from her own country and family who couldn’t visit her with any regularity in a place where few people spoke her language”.

As Sophie’s father explained back in 2017, Sophie was barely aware of what her offence even was, and “the first person she met who could speak English was a murderer”.

This story hasn’t yet been released in UK, thus it is unclear how the Grey family has reacted to the award for damages.
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I wonder how a male judge would have ruled.......

[misty]

https://www.portugalresident.com/missing-pensioner-found-in-aljezur-thanks-to-drone/

Missing pensioner found in Aljezur thanks to drone
By portugalresident -6th November 20
A 90-year-old man who went missing for 12 hours in Aljezur was found alive but debilitated by GNR police with the help of a thermal-imaging drone.

The pensioner was found “conscious but motionless” on the ground at around 3am on Wednesday (October 30) in a dark and barren area around 400 metres away from the local old people’s home where he lives.

According to Correio da Manhã, he was “debilitated, tired, very cold and unable to move”. As a precaution, he was taken to Portimão Hospital.

The Portuguese tabloid reports that the nonagenarian went for his usual Tuesday afternoon walk at 3pm but had not returned by 5pm, which worried the staff at the Estrutura Residencial para Pessoas Idosas de Aljezur.

GNR police were alerted and quickly searched the areas where the pensioner usually walked along but to no avail.

As night approached and temperatures dropped, the local police force requested assistance from the GNR Emergency, Protection and Rescue Unit in Lisbon.

The searches were then aided by a drone with thermal sensors which finally helped locate the man.

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It's good to see the GNR embracing modern technology which produced a positive outcome on this occasion.

[Vertigo Swirl]

https://www.portugalresident.com/young-welsh-woman-illegally-jailed-for-four-months-in-portugal-wins-e55000-in-civil-damages/
Young Welsh woman ‘illegally jailed for four months in Portugal wins €55,000 in civil damages
By portugalresident -6th November 2019
 
A young Welsh woman illegally jailed in Portugal for four truly miserable months has seen a Portuguese judge award her €55,000 in civil damages.

Sophie Grey, 25, was refused bail back in the summer of 2017 for the simple reason that she didn’t have a fixed address here.

Her family were fully prepared to post bail/ pay for Sophie to rent a place to stay but public prosecutors argued that she posed a flight risk, and the judge hearing her case agreed (click here).

It took four months of pressure, and an appeal against the first judge’s ruling, before Sophie was finally freed, to remain in Portugal until her case came to trial.

Even that was ‘an outrage’ according to her family, as Sophie was condemned to six-months in jail, suspended, for assaulting a police officer who told the court that she didn’t mean to hit him “she was just flailing her arms around”.

At the time, Roger Grey – Sophie’s father – told his local paper that the family was considering seeking compensation as they felt the whole situation had been dealt with appallingly, and more importantly, illegally (click here).

At some point last year, Sophie officially lodged a civil case for damages against the Portuguese State, maintaining this last point – and this week Público reveals that a female judge at Lisbon’s central civil court has found in her favour.

Say reports, judge Isabel Lourenço agreed that Sophie Grey’s incarceration was illegal as it “seriously compromised her personal integrity because for four months she was imprisoned a long way from her own country and family who couldn’t visit her with any regularity in a place where few people spoke her language”.

As Sophie’s father explained back in 2017, Sophie was barely aware of what her offence even was, and “the first person she met who could speak English was a murderer”.

This story hasn’t yet been released in UK, thus it is unclear how the Grey family has reacted to the award for damages.
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I wonder how a male judge would have ruled.......

It’ll probably end up in the supreme court, the female judge’s verdict overturned and she’ll get ten years in prison. 

[Brietta]

https://www.portugalresident.com/young-welsh-woman-illegally-jailed-for-four-months-in-portugal-wins-e55000-in-civil-damages/
Young Welsh woman ‘illegally jailed for four months in Portugal wins €55,000 in civil damages
By portugalresident -6th November 2019
 
A young Welsh woman illegally jailed in Portugal for four truly miserable months has seen a Portuguese judge award her €55,000 in civil damages.

Sophie Grey, 25, was refused bail back in the summer of 2017 for the simple reason that she didn’t have a fixed address here.

Her family were fully prepared to post bail/ pay for Sophie to rent a place to stay but public prosecutors argued that she posed a flight risk, and the judge hearing her case agreed (click here).

It took four months of pressure, and an appeal against the first judge’s ruling, before Sophie was finally freed, to remain in Portugal until her case came to trial.

Even that was ‘an outrage’ according to her family, as Sophie was condemned to six-months in jail, suspended, for assaulting a police officer who told the court that she didn’t mean to hit him “she was just flailing her arms around”.

At the time, Roger Grey – Sophie’s father – told his local paper that the family was considering seeking compensation as they felt the whole situation had been dealt with appallingly, and more importantly, illegally (click here).

At some point last year, Sophie officially lodged a civil case for damages against the Portuguese State, maintaining this last point – and this week Público reveals that a female judge at Lisbon’s central civil court has found in her favour.

Say reports, judge Isabel Lourenço agreed that Sophie Grey’s incarceration was illegal as it “seriously compromised her personal integrity because for four months she was imprisoned a long way from her own country and family who couldn’t visit her with any regularity in a place where few people spoke her language”.

As Sophie’s father explained back in 2017, Sophie was barely aware of what her offence even was, and “the first person she met who could speak English was a murderer”.

This story hasn’t yet been released in UK, thus it is unclear how the Grey family has reacted to the award for damages.
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I wonder how a male judge would have ruled.......

Aren't we regularly assured that everyone in Portugal speaks English?  Apparently this is not so.

[misty]

It’ll probably end up in the supreme court, the female judge’s verdict overturned and she’ll get ten years in prison.

You may well be right. I can't see the Portuguese State accepting the judge's verdict & award in light of the plaintiff's 6 month suspended sentence.

[ShiningInLuz]

Aren't we regularly assured that everyone in Portugal speaks English?  Apparently this is not so.

Which jail were the McCanns in?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Which jail were the McCanns in?

And not a word of criticism about Portugal’s treatment of this young British woman.  What a surprise.  Not.

[The General]

And not a word of criticism about Portugal’s treatment of this young British woman.  What a surprise.  Not.

Seems the validity of some Portuguese convictions are cast in boiler plate on these 'ere boards, while others are dubious / wrong / abhorrent, dependent upon the plaintiff.

[Mr Gray]

Seems the validity of some Portuguese convictions are cast in boiler plate on these 'ere boards, while others are dubious / wrong / abhorrent, dependent upon the plaintiff.

not depending on the plaintiff but depending on the evidence presented...amarals convicion...overwhelming evidence for instance

[Vertigo Swirl]

Seems the validity of some Portuguese convictions are cast in boiler plate on these 'ere boards, while others are dubious / wrong / abhorrent, dependent upon the plaintiff.

No, depending on the circumstances, and clearly in this case an injustice had been done, as even the Portuguese legal system has now acknowledged (though knowing how that works who really would be surprised if the woman in question ends up being re-arrested and forced to cough up her damages).

[ShiningInLuz]

And not a word of criticism about Portugal’s treatment of this young British woman.  What a surprise.  Not.

Does that in any way, shape or form relate to Brietta's point re the number of people in Portugal who speak English?

No.

No surprise there then.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Does that in any way, shape or form relate to Brietta's point re the number of people in Portugal who speak English?

No.

No surprise there then.

No,  it relates to your completely off topic post about the McCanns being in jail, which was hardly an insightful,  or intelligent response to Brietta’s point.  IMO.