Wandering Off Topic

[Eleanor]

Indeed, although that intervention killed the only active thread today.

Well, just behave yourselves.  There is no need for it.

[Brietta]

I suppose it makes a change doing a bit of Belgian police bashing.

I'm doing no 'bashing'.  It was the populace directly affected by most aspects of their judiciary from first to last who were vociferously complaining as their children were being used and abused and killed by paedophiles who appeared to be untouchable.

Why do you feel the need to post in defence of such horror; the Portuguese had Casa Pia and the Belgiums had Dutroux and his associates.  Were those, who some insist 'kept an open mind' in Madeleine's case, as ignorant of Doutroux ~ Casa Pia ~ a loose cannon? attacking sleeping children in the Algarve as sceptics apparently expect everyone else to be.

[G-Unit]

I'm doing no 'bashing'.  It was the populace directly affected by most aspects of their judiciary from first to last who were vociferously complaining as their children were being used and abused and killed by paedophiles who appeared to be untouchable.

Why do you feel the need to post in defence of such horror; the Portuguese had Casa Pia and the Belgiums had Dutroux and his associates.  Were those, who some insist 'kept an open mind' in Madeleine's case, as ignorant of Doutroux ~ Casa Pia ~ a loose cannon? attacking sleeping children in the Algarve as sceptics apparently expect everyone else to be.

I'm not defending anyone, I just don't see the relevance of those other cases to the McCann one.

[Brietta]

I'm not defending anyone, I just don't see the relevance of those other cases to the McCann one.

Then it appears you haven't been following what members have been posting.

[Angelo222]

So how would the recon demonstrate innocence... It wouldnt

The reconstitution as undertaken in Portugal involves the original people taking part in order to demonstrate what they have claimed took place. Any discrepancies will be immediately apparent. The refusal of the tapas group to take part is a sad indictment on them and renders their pledges to do whatever they could to assist the case worthless.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The reconstitution as undertaken in Portugal involves the original people taking part in order to demonstrate what they have claimed took place. Any discrepancies will be immediately apparent. The refusal of the tapas group to take part is a sad indictment on them and renders their pledges to do whatever they could to assist the case worthless.

It’s about time you adopted forum rules and used “in my opinion” in your posts or are you exempt because you are a mod?

[G-Unit]

Then it appears you haven't been following what members have been posting.

I've been reading the posts about Belgium and Morocco for years but can't see why they're significant. In my opinion the Morocco sightings were no more significant than any others, and the Belgian sightings were nothing to do with either Morocco or drug barons. Red herrings, imo.

[Brietta]

I've been reading the posts about Belgium and Morocco for years but can't see why they're significant. In my opinion the Morocco sightings were no more significant than any others, and the Belgian sightings were nothing to do with either Morocco or drug barons. Red herrings, imo.

Just because you disagree with a subject under discussion doesn't make it an irrelevance or a red herring.

[jassi]

Just because you disagree with a subject under discussion doesn't make it an irrelevance or a red herring.

Equally, you considering it all relevant does not make it so.

[Vertigo Swirl]

And this is what it has boiled down to.   Nothing anyone says here is remotely relevant to Madeleine or what happened to her.  It’s all just a long and protracted exercise in point scoring, not valuable work as some people appear to view it.

[John]

I've been reading the posts about Belgium and Morocco for years but can't see why they're significant. In my opinion the Morocco sightings were no more significant than any others, and the Belgian sightings were nothing to do with either Morocco or drug barons. Red herrings, imo.

It seems to me that there were attempts very early on to shift scrutiny of the Algarve to places like north Africa with bogus sightings. The Método 3 clowns in Barcelona being the principal culprits.

[jassi]

And this is what it has boiled down to.   Nothing anyone says here is remotely relevant to Madeleine or what happened to her.  It’s all just a long and protracted exercise in point scoring, not valuable work as some people appear to view it.

Well beggar me, for once I'm in full agreement.  Better go and have a lie down.

[Eleanor]

Well beggar me, for once I'm in full agreement.  Better go and have a lie down.

Me Too.

[Lace]

The sighting at the petrol station has stayed with me.   A little girl standing looking sad next to a man who didn't look anything like her  she says 'can we see Mummy now?'  and he says 'soon'.   Very strange,  for one wouldn't a small child if it had been her father be more likely to say 'Daddy will we see Mummy soon'  and wouldn't a father be more likely to say 'yes name of child or something such as darling or sweetheart,  we'll see her soon'  have some kind of reaction towards her a cuddle or holding her hand,  it all seems weird and cold.  Shame they had taped over the video footage before the Police could examine it.   Then another sighting at an hotel not far from the petrol station.  I really believe that was Madeleine.

[G-Unit]

It seems to me that there were attempts very early on to shift scrutiny of the Algarve to places like north Africa with bogus sightings. The Método 3 clowns in Barcelona being the principal culprits.

As far as I can work out this story was broken by The Sun. The incident happened on 4th August 2008, seemingly. What the reports have in common is phrases such as 'according to reports' and 'it was reported', but by whom and to whom isn't revealed. The security guard, reported as a female initially, becomes male in later stories.

The CCTV footage seems to have been given to the press before it was given to the police;

"Belgian police planned to show the CCTV footage on national television if nobody came forward to explain the sighting."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-brussels-cctv-sighting-326596

In my opinion this has Metodo 3's fingerprints all over it.

"Their private detectives followed up the report with the help of investigators in Brussels and video enhancement experts in the US."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-brussels-cctv-sighting-326596

How did The Sun get CCTV images from 5 security cameras? From the KBC bank staff, or from the Security staff?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZvUd5cWKqM