Wandering Off Topic

[Wonderfulspam]

It's obvious the alerts are right though.

Unless, maybe Gilroy liked cleaning only his car boot & not the rest of his car.

[Mr Gray]

It's obvious the alerts are right though.

Unless, maybe Gilroy liked cleaning only his car boot & not the rest of his car.

not according to the experts...in fact there was blood found in the boot but it wasnt Pilleys or Gilroys...

[Wonderfulspam]

not according to the experts...in fact there was blood found in the boot but it wasnt Pilleys or Gilroys...

I'm no expert, but I can guarantee Maddie won't be home by next christmas.

[pathfinder73]

Just been listening to a new review of the Suzanne Pilley case.  It has professor John Cassella of Staffordshire University who is quite dismissive if the dog alerts and says they should not have been admitted as evidence.  It also says the SCRC ruled that the alerts should not have been admitted.  That's quite damning here to posters who still support the value of the alerts

For those who are not aware John Cassella is a colleague of Martin Grime

There was other evidence?

On 7 March 2012, a forensic pathologist, Dr Nathaniel Cary told the jury that David Gilroy had curved scratches on his hands a cut on his forehead, bruises on his chest and other scratches to his hands, wrist and forearms on 6 May 2010. A series of photographs were produced in court. He told the advocate depute that the scratches could have been caused by another person's fingernails, possibly in a struggle, and that this had happened around the time Ms Pilley went missing.

Suzanne Pilley put up a fight but the b........ still got her.

On 8 March 2012, the advocate depute led evidence from a Lothian and Borders Police constable who told the court how they partially traced a car journey David Gilroy made to Lochgilphead on 5 May 2010, using CCTV footage. After analysing the footage police recreated the journey there and back several times. They found that Mr Gilroy had taken 2 hours longer than their average time each way. Furthermore a comparison of fuel consumption suggested that 124 miles of Mr Gilroy's journey were unaccounted for.

Nothing to see here. Move on.

[Mr Gray]

There was other evidence?

On 7 March 2012, a forensic pathologist, Dr Nathaniel Cary told the jury that David Gilroy had curved scratches on his hands a cut on his forehead, bruises on his chest and other scratches to his hands, wrist and forearms on 6 May 2010. A series of photographs were produced in court. He told the advocate depute that the scratches could have been caused by another person's fingernails, possibly in a struggle, and that this had happened around the time Ms Pilley went missing.

Suzanne Pilley put up a fight but the b........ still got her.

On 8 March 2012, the advocate depute led evidence from a Lothian and Borders Police constable who told the court how they partially traced a car journey David Gilroy made to Lochgilphead on 5 May 2010, using CCTV footage. After analysing the footage police recreated the journey there and back several times. They found that Mr Gilroy had taken 2 hours longer than their average time each way. Furthermore a comparison of fuel consumption suggested that 124 miles of Mr Gilroy's journey were unaccounted for.

Nothing to see here. Move on.

Ive already said there was other evidence... I'm just commenting on the inadmisibility of the alerts and the view if Prof Cassella.. Martin Grimes colleague

[Wonderfulspam]

Ive already said there was other evidence... I'm just commenting on the inadmisibility of the alerts and the view if Prof Cassella.. Martin Grimes colleague

Has he also cast doubt on the conviction of D'Andre Lane?

Maybe 2020 will be the year Bianca Jones abductors are caught & she turns up alive & well.

I wouldn't recommend holding your breath though.

[Mr Gray]

Has he also cast doubt on the conviction of D'Andre Lane?

Maybe 2020 will be the year Bianca Jones abductors are caught & she turns up alive & well.

I wouldn't recommend holding your breath though.

He hasn't cast doubt on any conviction...he's, simply cast doubt on the, alerts

[Wonderfulspam]

He hasn't cast doubt on any conviction...he's, simply cast doubt on the, alerts

Bit of a coincidence though eh, woman goes missing, car boot smells of air freshener, cadaver dog alerts there.

Perhaps 2020 will be the year Suzanne Pilley turns up alive & well.

I wouldn't hold your breath though.

[Mr Gray]

Bit of a coincidence though eh, woman goes missing, car boot smells of air freshener, cadaver dog alerts there.

Perhaps 2020 will be the year Suzanne Pilley turns up alive & well.

I wouldn't hold your breath though.

If they keep taking cadaver dogs to missing person scenes then the dogs have a good chance of getting some right.

[pathfinder73]

Ive already said there was other evidence... I'm just commenting on the inadmisibility of the alerts and the view if Prof Cassella.. Martin Grimes colleague

Along with other evidence it suggests the dog was spot on and that will corroborate the dog alerts. He had 2 hours to hide the body very well.

[Wonderfulspam]

Along with other evidence it suggests the dog was spot on and that will corroborate the dog alerts. He had 2 hours to hide the body very well.

Yes but the expert says....

Psssh...

Remind us how many missing persons have turned up alive following cadaver dog alerts?

It's one I think, maybe two, out of how many?

[Mr Gray]

Yes but the expert says....

Psssh...

Remind us how many missing persons have turned up alive following cadaver dog alerts?

It's one I think, maybe two, out of how many?

Perhaps you can remind me how many times Eddie... The best cadaver dog in the world.... Actually found any evidence... I think it's two... Not bad for seven years work

[Wonderfulspam]

Perhaps you can remind me how many times Eddie... The best cadaver dog in the world.... Actually found any evidence... I think it's two... Not bad for seven years work

He's yet to be proven wrong in the Maddie case.

Any sign of Maddie being alive?

No?

Fancy that.

[Mr Gray]

He's yet to be proven wrong in the Maddie case.

Any sign of Maddie being alive?

No?

Fancy that.

Just like the celestial teapot... Has anyone managed to prove it doesn't exist..

If Maddie did turn up... As Shannon Mathews did... The handler just comes up with another story...

[G-Unit]

Please could Davel provide a link to this 'review' he was listening to?