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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7335 on: January 28, 2020, 06:57:33 PM »
Hi Holly. I've had a couple of looks, but my knowledge of that case is way too sparse. I was interested to see how the early investigators messed up the evidence at the beginning.

Hi G-Unit.   Everyone has to start somewhere and I think you need a new challenge!  The case is worthy of your super sleuthing and forensic analytical skills.  8(>(( ?>)()<.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7336 on: January 28, 2020, 07:04:17 PM »
I've been doing a bit of reading up on the threads which has been interesting, I've also been following the ITV dramatisation which I think has been well done and of course I remember the case at the time.
I don't think I could be tempted to join the discussion.  I think it is all cut and dried and if I were in charge of the key to Bamber's cell I would throw it away.

Hi Brie.  A DS Jones appears to have suspected JB from the off much the same way GA did with the McCanns.   
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Brietta

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« Reply #7337 on: January 28, 2020, 07:26:05 PM »
Hi Brie.  A DS Jones appears to have suspected JB from the off much the same way GA did with the McCanns.
DS Jones probably starting with musing "cui bono?"
And the police made a pigs ear of the crime scene.  Plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose ... but luckily there was sufficient evidence to convict the child killer Bamber while there was not an iota of anything approaching evidence to support any of Amaral's lunatic theories.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline barrier

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7338 on: January 28, 2020, 08:44:51 PM »
DS Jones probably starting with musing "cui bono?"
And the police made a pigs ear of the crime scene.  Plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose ... but luckily there was sufficient evidence to convict the child killer Bamber while there was not an iota of anything approaching evidence to support any of Amaral's lunatic theories.

Still nothing as emerged to prove him wrong though.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7339 on: January 28, 2020, 08:46:48 PM »
Still nothing as emerged to prove him wrong though.

celestial teapot sceptic rubbish..imo

Offline barrier

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« Reply #7340 on: January 28, 2020, 08:59:45 PM »
celestial teapot sceptic rubbish..imo

Waiting for confirmation he was wrong,I'm patient.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7341 on: January 28, 2020, 09:18:36 PM »
Waiting for confirmation he was wrong,I'm patient.

celestial teapot sceptic rubbish..imo

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7342 on: January 28, 2020, 09:26:40 PM »
Waiting for confirmation he was wrong,I'm patient.
You think he might be right that Madeleine was od’ed on Calpol, fell to her death off the sofa and her body transported by the McCanns to her final resting place 23 dYs later?   Wow. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline ShiningInLuz

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« Reply #7343 on: January 29, 2020, 01:15:49 AM »
"A police dog tracked down a wedding ring thrown out by a man after a row with his wife.

German shepherd Odin, six, found the lost band "in seconds" on a grass verge in Harborne, Birmingham.

Officers had pulled over after spotting the man and a friend "acting suspiciously" in Northfield Road at about 02:00 GMT on Saturday.

Handler PC Carl Woodall said: "It was pitch black. They could have spent all night and still not found it.""

What's up, old man?

Offline sadie

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« Reply #7344 on: January 29, 2020, 01:47:07 AM »
"A police dog tracked down a wedding ring thrown out by a man after a row with his wife.

German shepherd Odin, six, found the lost band "in seconds" on a grass verge in Harborne, Birmingham.

Officers had pulled over after spotting the man and a friend "acting suspiciously" in Northfield Road at about 02:00 GMT on Saturday.

Handler PC Carl Woodall said: "It was pitch black. They could have spent all night and still not found it.""

I wish I could have used him when I lost my engagement ring about 18 months ago.


Never took it off my finger so it must somehow, somewhere, have dropped off.   


Never found.

Offline barrier

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7345 on: January 29, 2020, 07:01:37 AM »
celestial teapot sceptic rubbish..imo
Th immaterial has become.... immaterial.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline misty

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« Reply #7346 on: February 01, 2020, 12:07:36 AM »
An update on the case of the Document Devouring Deputy Mayor....7 years on. (The connection to the McCann case is Amaral's wife worked in the industry with Carito at the time)

https://www.portugalresident.com/former-deputy-mayor-who-swallowed-paper-during-police-searches-absolved-i-dont-know-what-was-on-the-paper/
Natasha Donn 31st Jan 2020

Former deputy mayor of Portimão Luís Carito and nine other defendants have been absolved of all the crimes they were accused, with a panel of judges determining that none of the charges could be proven.

Carito became the most notable suspect for having grabbed a paper out of the hands of a PJ police inspector and swallowed it during a house search.

Accused alongside him were businessmen Artur Curado, Luís Marreiros and Carlos Barros and six companies, all facing charges of money laundering, qualified fraud and participation in illegal business deals relating to the controversial ‘Cidade do Cinema’ project which aimed to turn Portimão into something of a European Bollywood.

The plans never moved forward and shortly after the local council fell into financial disarray, becoming one of the most indebted in Portugal.

However, yesterday came the official announcement that Portimão Court was only able to prove that contracts were signed between municipal companies Turis and Urbis and the companies involved in the creation of the so-called ‘Cidade do Cinema’.

In other words, it found no proof that these contracts defrauded the State or aggravated the municipality’s debt.

Initially, the Public Prosecutor’s Office had accused the defendants of taking part in a “fraudulent scheme” that was believed to have cost the State around €4.6 million.

However, last October, the Public Prosecutor’s Office called for the acquittal of the defendants as it had not been proven “that they acted in a concerted manner, harmed Portimão, or obtained personal benefits”.

Carito was even absolved for having grabbed a paper out of a PJ police inspector’s hands and swallowing it, as the Court says that “it was not possible to determine its content and relevance to the case”.

Speaking to reporters after the final verdict on Thursday, Carito said he was delighted with the outcome.

“I can finally look people in the face and say that it was proven that this whole situation was a mistake, or something else,” he told reporters, complaining that his name and the name of the other defendants were dragged through the mud.

“As we expected, this whole process led to nothing,” Carito said, adding that he has a “completely clear conscience”.

His lawyer Sancho Carvalho Nunes also spoke to reporters, saying that Carito’s innocence was proven “during the trial and not beforehand in the media” and claimed that the paper-swallowing was given more attention by newspapers than it was by “public opinion”.

“As was proven here today, not even that was a crime. Today justice was made and it was made during the trial and not in the newspapers,” he added.

Still, after all this time, no credible explanation has been offered as to why Carito swallowed the paper if in fact he did nothing wrong.

“I don’t know what was on it,” he told reporters.

michael.bruxo@algarveresident.com

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7347 on: February 02, 2020, 12:18:48 AM »
I wish I could have used him when I lost my engagement ring about 18 months ago.


Never took it off my finger so it must somehow, somewhere, have dropped off.   


Never found.

Aw that is a shame Sadie. I do hope it turns up!
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #7348 on: February 02, 2020, 01:51:46 AM »

Didn't Amaral stand for Mayor somewhere or other.  I don't think it went well.

Offline sadie

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« Reply #7349 on: February 02, 2020, 02:48:18 AM »
Aw that is a shame Sadie. I do hope it turns up!

Thankyou Mistaken.  I doubt it now tho'