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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7635 on: February 16, 2020, 08:03:32 PM »
Didn't know he had a website.
I'm one of those people who think the Dark Web is page 2 of Google results.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7636 on: February 16, 2020, 08:19:59 PM »
No. Quite rightly. But the point is, they went after him. Small fry who believed Madeleine died on the Sunday, as I recall.
Does he have any assets... Blessed are the poor because they cannot be sued

Offline The General

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7637 on: February 16, 2020, 08:24:42 PM »
Does he have any assets... Blessed are the poor because they cannot be sued
How do I know? Email him.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7638 on: February 16, 2020, 08:37:39 PM »
How do I know? Email him.
It's a rhetorical question

Offline The General

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7639 on: February 16, 2020, 08:46:00 PM »
It's a rhetorical question
So was mine.
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Offline kizzy

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7640 on: February 16, 2020, 10:18:51 PM »
Quite.  And that didn't end too well for Bennett did it?


No - but it has for R D Hall why haven't they gone after him.

Far worse  what he has put out than TB - Hall certainly doesn't believe Maddie wasn't abducted

Never been challenged either by mcns - not as cut and dried as what some think IMO the so-called abduction
« Last Edit: February 16, 2020, 10:23:37 PM by kizzy »

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7641 on: February 17, 2020, 12:05:33 AM »

No - but it has for R D Hall why haven't they gone after him.

Far worse  what he has put out than TB - Hall certainly doesn't believe Maddie wasn't abducted

Never been challenged either by mcns - not as cut and dried as what some think IMO the so-called abduction

You appear to have missed the point that at the moment there is an active investigation under way into Madeleine McCann's disappearance and all due to the hard work and effort put into campaigning for it by her parents.

Action was taken against Bennett at a time when absolutely no-one but her parents were looking for Madeleine and it was assessed that his activities were detrimental to the parental campaign for police action on her behalf.

Snip

Bennett, who was ordered to pay the costs of the litigation, apologised to the court.

He added: "I recognise the distress I have caused on a number of occasions to the claimants. I would like to apologise to them for that distress."

The judge said that Gerry and Kate McCann, who have not attended court, had suffered injury to their reputations and feelings and resorted to legal action not to punish Mr Bennett - but to put a stop to his repeated conduct.

He agreed with lawyers for the McCanns that Bennett had played "cat and mouse" with them by complying with the undertakings some of the time.

"He was testing them with false or disingenuous assurances and demands for explanations to which, as a member of the public with no responsibility for law enforcement, he was not entitled."

Later, Clarence Mitchell, the McCann family spokesman, said: "Kate and Gerry McCann brought these committal proceedings very much as a last resort.

"Concerned for the effect that Mr Bennett's campaign may have on the ongoing search for their daughter and the likelihood of new leads coming forward, the McCanns concluded they had little choice but to seek the Court's intervention.

"Contrary to press reports, Kate and Gerry McCann did not bring the action to punish Mr Bennett or to send him to prison, but simply to get him to stop."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-campaigner-tony-bennett-1723519
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline The General

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7642 on: February 17, 2020, 08:45:05 AM »

"Concerned for the effect that Mr Bennett's campaign may have on the ongoing search for their daughter and the likelihood of new leads coming forward, the McCanns concluded they had little choice but to seek the Court's intervention.


As discussed previously and confirmed in your snip (redacted), The McCann's were concerned as to the effect Bennett was having on the search, which we assume is negative, so they wanted him stopped.
So they intervened against an old man with a grudge, an incongruous theory and a pushbike, but seemingly overlooked a concerted, well organised Youtube campaign by a man with 1000's of followers.
The difference I see is that Bennett took it to the front door. But in terms of 'damaging the search', they're on different scales.
Low hanging fruit? Pick your battles?

...and aren't they oppo's? Bennett supplied the ammo, Hall fired them?
« Last Edit: February 17, 2020, 08:51:56 AM by The General »
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7643 on: February 17, 2020, 08:56:05 AM »
As discussed previously and confirmed in your snip (redacted), The McCann's were concerned as to the effect Bennett was having on the search, which we assume is negative, so they wanted him stopped.
So they intervened against an old man with a grudge, an incongruous theory and a pushbike, but seemingly overlooked a concerted, well organised Youtube campaign by a man with 1000's of followers.
The difference I see is that Bennett took it to the front door. But in terms of 'damaging the search', they're on different scales.
Low hanging fruit? Pick your battles?
From what i can see libel alw changed in 2013 and it was necessary to show probable serious harm to reputation.....thats probably why cmommm can get way with it.....i think bennett was pre 2013

So how much harm has Hall done to the McCanns reputation...very little I would think. Those that read him already suspect the McCanns and the vast majority of the population probably havent heard of him. The number of views may be from those already visiting his site believing in alien abduction having a quick look at them.

He does seem to have gone very quiet now...his websites gone...not sure whats happening there


I think it could be  argued his utterings have caused more damage to his own reputation than that of the McCanns.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2020, 09:02:33 AM by Davel »

Offline kizzy

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7644 on: February 17, 2020, 09:18:39 AM »
You appear to have missed the point that at the moment there is an active investigation under way into Madeleine McCann's disappearance and all due to the hard work and effort put into campaigning for it by her parents.

Action was taken against Bennett at a time when absolutely no-one but her parents were looking for Madeleine and it was assessed that his activities were detrimental to the parental campaign for police action on her behalf.

Snip

Bennett, who was ordered to pay the costs of the litigation, apologised to the court.

He added: "I recognise the distress I have caused on a number of occasions to the claimants. I would like to apologise to them for that distress."

The judge said that Gerry and Kate McCann, who have not attended court, had suffered injury to their reputations and feelings and resorted to legal action not to punish Mr Bennett - but to put a stop to his repeated conduct.

He agreed with lawyers for the McCanns that Bennett had played "cat and mouse" with them by complying with the undertakings some of the time.

"He was testing them with false or disingenuous assurances and demands for explanations to which, as a member of the public with no responsibility for law enforcement, he was not entitled."

Later, Clarence Mitchell, the McCann family spokesman, said: "Kate and Gerry McCann brought these committal proceedings very much as a last resort.

"Concerned for the effect that Mr Bennett's campaign may have on the ongoing search for their daughter and the likelihood of new leads coming forward, the McCanns concluded they had little choice but to seek the Court's intervention.

"Contrary to press reports, Kate and Gerry McCann did not bring the action to punish Mr Bennett or to send him to prison, but simply to get him to stop."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-campaigner-tony-bennett-1723519

No B I am not missing the point you are -  you only assume that is the reason.

The fact is they have not done anything about RDH - It is there to see every day



"Concerned for the effect that Mr Bennett's campaign may have on the ongoing search for their daughter and the likelihood of new leads coming forward, the McCanns concluded they had little choice but to seek the Court's intervention.


Doesnt that also apply to Richard D Hall - seems not.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7645 on: February 17, 2020, 09:29:32 AM »
No B I am not missing the point you are -  you only assume that is the reason.

The fact is they have not done anything about RDH - It is there to see every day



"Concerned for the effect that Mr Bennett's campaign may have on the ongoing search for their daughter and the likelihood of new leads coming forward, the McCanns concluded they had little choice but to seek the Court's intervention.


Doesnt that also apply to Richard D Hall - seems not.

Halls theories are not in main stream media....very few if the general public have heard of him

Offline Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7646 on: February 17, 2020, 09:33:10 AM »
As discussed previously and confirmed in your snip (redacted), The McCann's were concerned as to the effect Bennett was having on the search, which we assume is negative, so they wanted him stopped.
So they intervened against an old man with a grudge, an incongruous theory and a pushbike, but seemingly overlooked a concerted, well organised Youtube campaign by a man with 1000's of followers.
The difference I see is that Bennett took it to the front door. But in terms of 'damaging the search', they're on different scales.
Low hanging fruit? Pick your battles?

...and aren't they oppo's? Bennett supplied the ammo, Hall fired them?

Bennett has done a lot of that in recent years.  He has actively encouraged others to attack The McCanns.

Offline Lace

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7647 on: February 17, 2020, 09:51:23 AM »
They 'went after' Tony Bennett. (The spanner, not the singer)

Yes,  they did,  but that was when he was selling his booklet,  50 reasons.   Now with his theory of Madeleine died on the Sunday,  he is laughable and not worth the effort.

Offline kizzy

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7648 on: February 17, 2020, 09:52:07 AM »
Halls theories are not in main stream media....very few if the general public have heard of him


I think you may mean the ones who are not interested in the mcns - who probably beileve they brought it on themselves whatever happened.

IMO those who don't believe the abduction or not sure certainly are - you can't prove either way.

but still, RDH is left completely alone - and all over what happened to Maddie forums.


One of the titles of his work is - Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?'

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7649 on: February 17, 2020, 10:02:02 AM »

I think you may mean the ones who are not interested in the mcns - who probably beileve they brought it on themselves whatever happened.

IMO those who don't believe the abduction or not sure certainly are - you can't prove either way.

but still, RDH is left completely alone - and all over what happened to Maddie forums.


One of the titles of his work is - Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?'

I think most people including the mccanns believe Maddie is probably dead... Have you read my explanation of the 2013 change in libel law.. It explains why the mccanns could sue Bennett but not cmomm or hall