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Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7650 on: February 17, 2020, 10:20:50 AM »
As discussed previously and confirmed in your snip (redacted), The McCann's were concerned as to the effect Bennett was having on the search, which we assume is negative, so they wanted him stopped.
So they intervened against an old man with a grudge, an incongruous theory and a pushbike, but seemingly overlooked a concerted, well organised Youtube campaign by a man with 1000's of followers.
The difference I see is that Bennett took it to the front door. But in terms of 'damaging the search', they're on different scales.
Low hanging fruit? Pick your battles?

...and aren't they oppo's? Bennett supplied the ammo, Hall fired them?

Not really  ...

In my opinion this was "an old man with a grudge" according to you, who had the expertise ~ the knowledge combined with obsession who stole Madeleine's name to confusingly set up the Madeleine Foundation for the express purpose of libelling and harassing Madeleine's parents and asking the public for donations to enable him to do so.

And all at a time when the Portuguese authorities had written Madeleine off and were not looking for her and her parents were desperately highlighting her plight and trying to get an investigation into her case restarted.

And all at a time when the British authorities were being desperately lobbied by Madeleine's parents to start up their own investigation into Madeleine's case and initiate investigations into what happened to her.

There was no official investigation being conducted into the circumstances of Madeleine McCann's disappearance anywhere in the world ... only her parents were looking for her and they knew that wasn't enough.
In their opinion Bennett's libels attacked and impeded their campaign to find Madeleine.

In 2013 Kate and Gerry's ceaseless efforts paid off and a police investigation was begun in Britain, Madeleine's homeland ~ and a police investigation was begun in Portugal, the country where Madeleine disappeared from.

Kate and Gerry were eliminated from the inquiries of both official police investigations ... and both official police investigations which are still ongoing, are investigating Madeleine's abduction.

In my opinion people who are fly by nights who come and go after making their pound of flesh on the conspiracy theory circuit are a total irrelevance at the moment.  Madeleine's case is active and being investigated ... she is being officially looked for and that situation has been taken on board and its significance recognised by the majority of people who might have an interest in her case.

The majority know the earth isn't flat. A minority believe it is.  Basically they exist on the periphery ... a total irrelevance to most and to some who don't even know of their existence or if they do, couldn't care less about them.

So it is with those who have their fifteen minutes of fame then vanish back into the obscurity from which they emerged.

Madeleine's case is being investigated.  Madeleine is being looked for which may well be an irritant for some ... but that is the state of play right now.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7651 on: February 17, 2020, 10:24:14 AM »
Not really  ...

In my opinion this was "an old man with a grudge" according to you, who had the expertise ~ the knowledge combined with obsession who stole Madeleine's name to confusingly set up the Madeleine Foundation for the express purpose of libelling and harassing Madeleine's parents and asking the public for donations to enable him to do so.

And all at a time when the Portuguese authorities had written Madeleine off and were not looking for her and her parents were desperately highlighting her plight and trying to get an investigation into her case restarted.

And all at a time when the British authorities were being desperately lobbied by Madeleine's parents to start up their own investigation into Madeleine's case and initiate investigations into what happened to her.

There was no official investigation being conducted into the circumstances of Madeleine McCann's disappearance anywhere in the world ... only her parents were looking for her and they knew that wasn't enough.
In their opinion Bennett's libels attacked and impeded their campaign to find Madeleine.

In 2013 Kate and Gerry's ceaseless efforts paid off and a police investigation was begun in Britain, Madeleine's homeland ~ and a police investigation was begun in Portugal, the country where Madeleine disappeared from.

Kate and Gerry were eliminated from the inquiries of both official police investigations ... and both official police investigations which are still ongoing, are investigating Madeleine's abduction.

In my opinion people who are fly by nights who come and go after making their pound of flesh on the conspiracy theory circuit are a total irrelevance at the moment.  Madeleine's case is active and being investigated ... she is being officially looked for and that situation has been taken on board and its significance recognised by the majority of people who might have an interest in her case.

The majority know the earth isn't flat. A minority believe it is.  Basically they exist on the periphery ... a total irrelevance to most and to some who don't even know of their existence or if they do, couldn't care less about them.

So it is with those who have their fifteen minutes of fame then vanish back into the obscurity from which they emerged.

Madeleine's case is being investigated.  Madeleine is being looked for which may well be an irritant for some ... but that is the state of play right now.

Madeleine is being looked for??

Have you seen any searching going on recently, by that strength in numbers that is 4 ?
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Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7652 on: February 17, 2020, 10:25:34 AM »
No B I am not missing the point you are -  you only assume that is the reason.

The fact is they have not done anything about RDH - It is there to see every day



"Concerned for the effect that Mr Bennett's campaign may have on the ongoing search for their daughter and the likelihood of new leads coming forward, the McCanns concluded they had little choice but to seek the Court's intervention.


Doesnt that also apply to Richard D Hall - seems not.

Why are you so desperate for this nonentity to be sued?  You certainly seem most put out that he hasn't been.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Erngath

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7653 on: February 17, 2020, 10:26:05 AM »
Not really  ...

In my opinion this was "an old man with a grudge" according to you, who had the expertise ~ the knowledge combined with obsession who stole Madeleine's name to confusingly set up the Madeleine Foundation for the express purpose of libelling and harassing Madeleine's parents and asking the public for donations to enable him to do so.

And all at a time when the Portuguese authorities had written Madeleine off and were not looking for her and her parents were desperately highlighting her plight and trying to get an investigation into her case restarted.

And all at a time when the British authorities were being desperately lobbied by Madeleine's parents to start up their own investigation into Madeleine's case and initiate investigations into what happened to her.

There was no official investigation being conducted into the circumstances of Madeleine McCann's disappearance anywhere in the world ... only her parents were looking for her and they knew that wasn't enough.
In their opinion Bennett's libels attacked and impeded their campaign to find Madeleine.

In 2013 Kate and Gerry's ceaseless efforts paid off and a police investigation was begun in Britain, Madeleine's homeland ~ and a police investigation was begun in Portugal, the country where Madeleine disappeared from.

Kate and Gerry were eliminated from the inquiries of both official police investigations ... and both official police investigations which are still ongoing, are investigating Madeleine's abduction.

In my opinion people who are fly by nights who come and go after making their pound of flesh on the conspiracy theory circuit are a total irrelevance at the moment.  Madeleine's case is active and being investigated ... she is being officially looked for and that situation has been taken on board and its significance recognised by the majority of people who might have an interest in her case.

The majority know the earth isn't flat. A minority believe it is.  Basically they exist on the periphery ... a total irrelevance to most and to some who don't even know of their existence or if they do, couldn't care less about them.

So it is with those who have their fifteen minutes of fame then vanish back into the obscurity from which they emerged.

Madeleine's case is being investigated.  Madeleine is being looked for which may well be an irritant for some ... but that is the state of play right now.


Excellent post.
Well said.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline The General

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7654 on: February 17, 2020, 10:28:02 AM »
From what i can see libel alw changed in 2013 and it was necessary to show probable serious harm to reputation.....thats probably why cmommm can get way with it.....i think bennett was pre 2013

So how much harm has Hall done to the McCanns reputation...very little I would think. Those that read him already suspect the McCanns and the vast majority of the population probably havent heard of him. The number of views may be from those already visiting his site believing in alien abduction having a quick look at them.

He does seem to have gone very quiet now...his websites gone...not sure whats happening there


I think it could be  argued his utterings have caused more damage to his own reputation than that of the McCanns.
His website's still there.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7655 on: February 17, 2020, 10:28:46 AM »
Halls theories are not in main stream media....very few if the general public have heard of him

Absolutely correct.

I don't think it is generally realised what a terribly small bubble people like us inhabit.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7656 on: February 17, 2020, 10:40:06 AM »
Madeleine is being looked for??

Have you seen any searching going on recently, by that strength in numbers that is 4 ?

What a predictable post.
I think you may have posted many such over the years since Madeleine's case opened in 2013.  You really don't know any more about it than I do because this is an active police investigation both here and in Portugal and for all we know elsewhere in the world and the police are giving nothing away.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline kizzy

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7657 on: February 17, 2020, 10:46:14 AM »
Why are you so desperate for this nonentity to be sued?  You certainly seem most put out that he hasn't been.


Not at all B - I admire those who are able to put it out there -  and have the bottle to speak out there beliefs.

Who do not believe the mcns - and not afraid to say so


Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7658 on: February 17, 2020, 10:50:32 AM »

Not at all B - I admire those who are able to put it out there -  and have the bottle to speak out there beliefs.

Who do not believe the mcns - and not afraid to say so

I don't think it takes any bravery... What a, strange idea.
I suppose you think hall is brave for saying the Manchester bombing was a hoax... I just think he's balmy

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7659 on: February 17, 2020, 10:52:13 AM »
What a predictable post.
I think you may have posted many such over the years since Madeleine's case opened in 2013.  You really don't know any more about it than I do because this is an active police investigation both here and in Portugal and for all we know elsewhere in the world and the police are giving nothing away.

Your reply was equally predictable. As is the fact that neither Maddie or any abductor are traceable.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7660 on: February 17, 2020, 11:03:01 AM »

Not at all B - I admire those who are able to put it out there -  and have the bottle to speak out there beliefs.

Who do not believe the mcns - and not afraid to say so

That is entirely your prerogative ... there is nothing I can or would wish to do or say to shake your faith in your heroes and heroines particularly as I too am a firm believer in truth and justice and in the rule of law.

I think the difference between us is that I do not require to be led by anyone else's convictions artfully portrayed, I weigh things up for myself and make my own decisions.
I think it can be summed up by the entirely different posting style adopted by us both.  You confess to admire someone else's thoughts ... my preference is to sift through the internet dross and to make up my own mind.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Erngath

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7661 on: February 17, 2020, 11:15:52 AM »
I don't think it takes any bravery... What a, strange idea.
I suppose you think hall is brave for saying the Manchester bombing was a hoax... I just think he's balmy

And cruel IMO.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7662 on: February 17, 2020, 11:44:00 AM »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7663 on: February 17, 2020, 11:47:26 AM »
And cowardly IMO.

Not to mention spiteful IMO

Offline Lace

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7664 on: February 17, 2020, 12:22:06 PM »
Madeleine is being looked for??

Have you seen any searching going on recently, by that strength in numbers that is 4 ?

Do you think that four people are out on the streets in different countries looking for Madeleine?   That is what your post seems to imply.   There is Technology in case you have forgotten,  people can get in touch with others very easily.  Th ere is also the Portuguese Police who are also looking for Madeleine,  these two teams are in close contact
with one another.  Dear me how some seem to think,  people including the McCann's should be searching streets knocking on doors searching for Madeleine makes me despair.