Wandering Off Topic

[G-Unit]

Do you believe that evidence of the continuing investigation is presented when extra funding is asked for or that money is given to the investigation without any requirement to present evidence of any progress being made?

I think I read somewhere that the money is forthcoming if Op Grange say they need it.

[Angelo222]

I think I read somewhere that the money is forthcoming if Op Grange say they need it.

This so-called Operation Grange investigation is one almighty farce in my book.  Seems nobody has the balls to say enough is enough.

[Erngath]

I think I read somewhere that the money is forthcoming if Op Grange say they need it.

Where did you read that ?.
Do you believe that Operation Grange only have  to ask for more money and and it will be granted?
No questions asked, no updated report of progress submitted ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

This so-called Operation Grange investigation is one almighty farce in my book.  Seems nobody has the balls to say enough is enough.

What about the Portuguese investigation - is that a farce too?

[sadie]

Not at all - it depends on whether they get more funding quite possibly they won't.

The lol is  - they are getting nowhere 4 people at a desk its a joke.IMO

Ah, but maybe other investigations have spawned off the Madeleine investigation.  Maybe other SY teams are working on them?   We just don't know, do we?

Could it be that other teams are working on other aspects thrown up by OG's investigations?   I could suggest several possibles, such as

1) an investigation into the other children missing in PT, which tend to follow a pattern, imo

2)  an investigation into smuggling globally

3)  an investigation into the cannabis trade because of the Rif Mountains connections to Malenbeek St John in Brussels to Leh in the Himalayas ... all places where sightings of Madeleine took place



i.  In the Rif Mountains they grow most of the hemp in the world.  Hemp is processed into cannabis, crack, hashish etc.

ii   The processing is done at Molenbeek St John, before sending on via 'safe' routes globally.

iii.  It is then forwarded to places like Leh, other Indian places, and globally elsewhere     Almost all the hashish smoked in India comes in via Leh, way up in the Himalayas.


4)  an investigation into the abuse by Catholic priests  etc etc



Much better to have a seperate team to Operation Grange for any such investigation, imo.  At least a new unknown team would not be being pestered all the time by timewasters, like Bennet seems to be, imo.

All the above is only my thoughts, but it could account for time spent looking

And I know that it might be wrong.

[barrier]

This so-called Operation Grange investigation is one almighty farce in my book.  Seems nobody has the balls to say enough is enough.

Next year when Madeleine would be 18 and her ward of court ends,the state will have no responsibility then.That's when it ends imo.

[Mr Gray]

This so-called Operation Grange investigation is one almighty farce in my book.  Seems nobody has the balls to say enough is enough.

I think you've got it back to front...in my book it was the initial investigation that was a farce

[jassi]

Next year when Madeleine would be 18 and her ward of court ends,the state will have no responsibility then.That's when it ends imo.

Certainly there ill be no excuse for this alleged surveillance after that date  -  IMO

[Eleanor]

Certainly there ill be no excuse for this alleged surveillance after that date  -  IMO

This could depend on whether or not Madeleine knows who she is.

[G-Unit]

Ah, but maybe other investigations have spawned off the Madeleine investigation.  Maybe other SY teams are working on them?   We just don't know, do we?

Could it be that other teams are working on other aspects thrown up by OG's investigations?   I could suggest several possibles, such as

1) an investigation into the other children missing in PT, which tend to follow a pattern, imo

2)  an investigation into smuggling globally

3)  an investigation into the cannabis trade because of the Rif Mountains connections to Malenbeek St John in Brussels to Leh in the Himalayas ... all places where sightings of Madeleine took place



i.  In the Rif Mountains they grow most of the hemp in the world.  Hemp is processed into cannabis, crack, hashish etc.

ii   The processing is done at Molenbeek St John, before sending on via 'safe' routes globally.

iii.  It is then forwarded to places like Leh, other Indian places, and globally elsewhere     Almost all the hashish smoked in India comes in via Leh, way up in the Himalayas.


4)  an investigation into the abuse by Catholic priests  etc etc



Much better to have a seperate team to Operation Grange for any such investigation, imo.  At least a new unknown team would not be being pestered all the time by timewasters, like Bennet seems to be, imo.

All the above is only my thoughts, but it could account for time spent looking

And I know that it might be wrong.

False assumptions are a sign of a lazy researcher imo.

Hemp is a relative of cannabis, but it can't be made into cannabis because it lacks the THC which makes cannabis psychoactive. The country which grows most of it is China, followed by Canada and the USA. The USA is number one for growing cannabis or marijuana, with Morroco second.

Crack is made from cocaine, which comes from the leaves of a plant called coca.

Hashish is made from the resin of the cannabis plant. This is done by the growers; exporting the harvested plants to Belgium to be dried and to extract the resin would be crazy and noticeable.

Hemp is grown all over, even in Yorkshire, although farmers need a licence to farm it. Strangely, no licence is needed to grow opium poppies in the UK, although they are what heroin comes from.

[Mr Gray]

False assumptions are a sign of a lazy researcher imo.

Hemp is a relative of cannabis, but it can't be made into cannabis because it lacks the THC which makes cannabis psychoactive. The country which grows most of it is China, followed by Canada and the USA. The USA is number one for growing cannabis or marijuana, with Morroco second.

Crack is made from cocaine, which comes from the leaves of a plant called coca.

Hashish is made from the resin of the cannabis plant. This is done by the growers; exporting the harvested plants to Belgium to be dried and to extract the resin would be crazy and noticeable.

Hemp is grown all over, even in Yorkshire, although farmers need a licence to farm it. Strangely, no licence is needed to grow opium poppies in the UK, although they are what heroin comes from.

So it's not surprising that opium poppies are now cultivated on about 8,000 acres of arable land in Britain.

its easy to grow cannabis for personal use and theres a lot grown in the UK....some legal. I undersatnd Theresa May's husband is on e of the biggest producers.

growing poppys takes a lot more space so i doubt if its posssible for individuals to grow enough poppies...perhapsyou could spend the rest of your day doing some proper research....i'm off to Wembley

[G-Unit]

Where did you read that ?.
Do you believe that Operation Grange only have  to ask for more money and and it will be granted?
No questions asked, no updated report of progress submitted ?

When considering special grants applications, the Home Office does not take a view on whether an investigation should continue, which would be an operational matter for the police.
https://homeofficemedia.blog.gov.uk/2019/06/05/home-office-update-on-funding-for-operation-grange/

[barrier]

When considering special grants applications, the Home Office does not take a view on whether an investigation should continue, which would be an operational matter for the police.
https://homeofficemedia.blog.gov.uk/2019/06/05/home-office-update-on-funding-for-operation-grange/

Also the money does not get approved until later in the year,seems as if OG continues with  a assurance of funding,with out even knowing whats a foot.

All applications for Special Grant funding are considered carefully on their individual merits, however, decisions are made in batches to allow us to better consider the impact on the overall policing budget.
Due to this, the next round of Special Grant funding will not be decided until October, however we have written to Deputy Mayor for Policing and Crime in the meantime with assurance that the MPS will receive a similar level of funding for Operation Grange for 2019/20 as it did for the previous year.

[jassi]

This could depend on whether or not Madeleine knows who she is.

Why would that have any bearing on surveillance?

[barrier]

Certainly there ill be no excuse for this alleged surveillance after that date  -  IMO

What other police operation is known to announce we're applying for funding,recently the investigation into Stuart Lubbocks murder made the news,no mention of funding,Suzi lamplugh case had two digs last year,no mention of funding,tis a strange one to be sure.

Lets play the surveillance nonsense,those who supposedly hold Madeleine are one supposes not of lower intelligence,these person's are not unaware of the continuance of OG,one whiff of alleged surveillance they'd be off like a shot.Yeah right,we've got your back girl.