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Offline jassi

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8835 on: October 25, 2020, 01:02:53 PM »
So which Crimes does this apply to?

Murder/manslaughter.

https://www.kingsleynapley.co.uk/insights/blogs/criminal-law-blog/widening-the-net-investigating-and-prosecuting-offences-overseas

The general principle is that acts committed abroad are not punishable under the English criminal law. Parliament may give an offence extra-territorial application but must do so expressly. ... A person of any nationality commits / attempts to commit such an offence in any country covered by the convention
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Online Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8836 on: October 25, 2020, 01:07:04 PM »
Murder/manslaughter.

https://www.kingsleynapley.co.uk/insights/blogs/criminal-law-blog/widening-the-net-investigating-and-prosecuting-offences-overseas

The general principle is that acts committed abroad are not punishable under the English criminal law. Parliament may give an offence extra-territorial application but must do so expressly. ... A person of any nationality commits / attempts to commit such an offence in any country covered by the convention

That doesn't rule out the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

Offline barrier

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8837 on: October 25, 2020, 01:07:21 PM »
Its been posted often enough.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/24-25/100/section/9

9Murder or manslaughter abroad.
Where any murder or manslaughter shall be committed on land out of the United Kingdom, whether within the Queen’s dominions or without, and whether the person killed were a subject of Her Majesty or not, every offence committed by any subject of Her Majesty in respect of any such case, whether the same shall amount to the offence of murder or of manslaughter, . . . F1, may be dealt with, inquired of, tried, determined, and punished . . . F1 in England or Ireland . . . F1: Provided, that nothing herein contained shall prevent any person from being tried in any place out of England or Ireland for any murder or manslaughter committed out of England or Ireland, in the same manner as such person might have been tried before the passing of this Act.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8838 on: October 25, 2020, 06:54:46 PM »
An interesting fact I learned today.  If you fall 50 ft off a building (that’s 5 storeys), your survival chances are 50%.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8839 on: October 25, 2020, 06:57:49 PM »
Fascinating - how was survival defined ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8840 on: October 25, 2020, 06:58:29 PM »
An interesting fact I learned today.  If you fall 50 ft off a building (that’s 5 storeys), your survival chances are 50%.

Yet maddoe died rolling of the sofa according to detective dim

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8841 on: October 25, 2020, 07:03:08 PM »
Fascinating - how was survival defined ?
As not dying.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Anthro

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8842 on: October 30, 2020, 09:14:40 PM »
https://youtu.be/4xJ4q-V2Glc
Just sharing a wonderful release today. Karen Zoid (Afrikaans artist), AB de Villiers, our national cricket captain, and Ralf with the Ndlovu youth choir.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8843 on: October 30, 2020, 09:38:34 PM »
So Britain can prosecute a British Subject living in Britain for a crime committed abroad.  Thank God we got that one sorted.


Yes, many have. most notorious was 70's pop star Garry Glitter (ew) who sexually abused children in Thailand or was it Vietnam?   Sex tourists they are called.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8844 on: October 30, 2020, 09:40:54 PM »
Germany sem to have quite a high bar re evidence for prosecution. What I think many have not realised is that if the Germans don't charge CB..then SY could.....trial by jury

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8845 on: October 30, 2020, 09:46:36 PM »
Germany sem to have quite a high bar re evidence for prosecution. What I think many have not realised is that if the Germans don't charge CB..then SY could.....trial by jury
I have my doubts about that.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8846 on: October 30, 2020, 09:48:20 PM »
Germany sem to have quite a high bar re evidence for prosecution. What I think many have not realised is that if the Germans don't charge CB..then SY could.....trial by jury

SY can't he has committed no crime in the UK Neither is he a UK citizen.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8847 on: October 30, 2020, 09:50:05 PM »
SY can't he has committed no crime in the UK Neither is he a UK citizen.

You obviously don't understand the law...he absolutely could be tried in the UK

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8848 on: October 30, 2020, 09:54:48 PM »
You obviously don't understand the law...he absolutely could be tried in the UK


Yawn.  No he really, really can't. He committed NO CRIME ON UK SOIL.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8849 on: October 30, 2020, 09:56:03 PM »
https://youtu.be/4xJ4q-V2Glc
Just sharing a wonderful release today. Karen Zoid (Afrikaans artist), AB de Villiers, our national cricket captain, and Ralf with the Ndlovu youth choir.

Brilliant!
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....