Wandering Off Topic

[Robittybob1]

They can't lawfully extradite him. Since 31/01/2020 we left the EU. The German constitution gives the express right to a German citizen that they cannot be extradited to a non EU country

Bold statement - Cite requested for "The German constitution gives the express right to a German citizen that they cannot be extradited to a non EU country".  Please.

[Icanhandlethetruth]

Bold statement - Cite requested for "The German constitution gives the express right to a German citizen that they cannot be extradited to a non EU country".  Please.

Extradition to a non-EU country is inadmissible for own nationals. This is regulated in the German Constitution, cf. Article 16.2 sentence 1 of the German Constitution. The German state will then take over the prosecution itself.

https://criminal-law-germany.lawyer/extradition-in-criminal-law/#:~:text=Under%20certain%20conditions%2C%20the%20Federal,foreign%20citizens%20to%20other%20countries.&text=Extradition%20to%20a%20non%2DEU,1%20of%20the%20German%20Constitution.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Davel is right.  There are circumstances where UK will prosecute for crimes committed overseas.

Only UK citizens if they are the victim and the prep is British.

[Miss Taken Identity]

They can't lawfully extradite him. Since 31/01/2020 we left the EU. The German constitution gives the express right to a German citizen that they cannot be extradited to a non EU country

100% correct!

[Mr Gray]

Only UK citizens if they are the victim and the prep is British.

that is wrong...its whether the perp is physically present in the UK...nationality unimportant.

[Mr Gray]

100% correct!

The question was could CB be prosecuted in the UK......the answer is ..yes. I'm not saying probable but possible.

If ever he was released from prison and travelled to another country he may well be able to be extradited..

[Mr Gray]

Yawn.  No he really, really can't. He committed NO CRIME ON UK SOIL.

Just to put my claim into context...the Uk can prosecute for crimes not committed on UK soil

[Miss Taken Identity]

that is wrong...its whether the perp is physically present in the UK...nationality unimportant.

 if MBM was abducted by a non British citizen in an other country. UK can't bring charges.

If MBM was abducted here by someone living in this country they would be charged.

[Mr Gray]

if MBM was abducted by a non British citizen in an other country. UK can't bring charges.

If MBM was abducted here by someone living in this country they would be charged.

the accused only has to be present in the country..

[Miss Taken Identity]

the accused only has to be present in the country..

Yes, but CB isn't , is he. So he can't be  charged and tried here. End of.

[Mr Gray]

Yes, but CB isn't , is he. So he can't be  charged and tried here. End of.

Glad you agree with me now...he could be extradited

[Robittybob1]

Glad you agree with me now...he could be extradited

And that would be grounds for another appeal if that happened IMO.

[Eleanor]

America doesn't seem to have a problem with extraditing British Citizens.  Unfortunately The Americans aren't so keen on a reciprocal arrangement.

France never extradites anyone, if they can possibly avoid it.  But then France didn't join this one.

[Robittybob1]

America doesn't seem to have a problem with extraditing British Citizens.  Unfortunately The Americans aren't so keen on a reciprocal arrangement.

France never extradites anyone, if they can possibly avoid it.  But then France didn't join this one.

Would that because USA states have the death penalty?

[Eleanor]

Would that because USA states have the death penalty?

What?  France you mean?  France didn't join because they were quite happy with what they already had.

Meanwhile, I am still at a loss to fathom who can extradite who and for what in The EU.  Although France might comply when it comes to Rape and Murder.

No one can be extradited from France when whatever it is isn't a crime in France, no matter what their Nationality.  Which is where some crimes of sexual abuse comes in.  The age limits in France are different.

The last man, boy actually, who was guillotined was in about 1966 and from what I read on the subject was almost certainly Innocent.