Wandering Off Topic

[Eleanor]

My point is that those who have accused them of being incompetent seem reluctant to consider that possibility.

I'm not, obviously.

[Eleanor]

There was that one and only CCTV Camera that got wiped before The PJ got there.  That was a bit incompetent.

[faithlilly]

There was that one and only CCTV Camera that got wiped before The PJ got there.  That was a bit incompetent.

Imagine the implications of that mistake. Didn’t Amaral say that that was one of his biggest regrets?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Where did the PJ physically check that night, if anywhere?

[Eleanor]

Imagine the implications of that mistake. Didn’t Amaral say that that was one of his biggest regrets?

Yes, you're right, he did.  But wasn't the camera pointing the wrong way?   Did he mention any other mistakes.

[Brietta]

There was that one and only CCTV Camera that got wiped before The PJ got there.  That was a bit incompetent.

Had it not been wiped it is possible that it would have provided evidence regarding the time the Smith family returned to their accommodation on the night of the third.

Paul Luckman says Amaral thinks it would have captured the child carrier who passed them en route.

What a shame no-one thought to check it.

[faithlilly]

Yes, you're right, he did.  But wasn't the camera pointing the wrong way?   Did he mention any other mistakes.

I think mentioning that the British police were being led by the parents may have been one.

[Eleanor]

I think mentioning that the British police were being led by the parents may have been one.

Was that the reason for why he got removed from the case?  I never did work out quite what he did to warrant that.  But I bet he wished he hadn't said it.

[faithlilly]

Was that the reason for why he got removed from the case?  I never did work out quite what he did to warrant that.  But I bet he wished he hadn't said it.

He said the wrong thing to the wrong reporter. I think he thought that it was off the record..

[Eleanor]

He said the wrong thing to the wrong reporter. I think he thought that it was off the record..

That wasn't very bright, was it.

[faithlilly]

That wasn't very bright, was it.

I’m sure it was driven by frustration.

[Eleanor]

I’m sure it was driven by frustration.

You are almost certainly right about that.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I think Amaral simply handed the PJ a convenient excuse to sack him off the case.

[Angelo222]

I think Amaral simply handed the PJ a convenient excuse to sack him off the case.

I doubt it very much given the humiliation that followed. IMO he was right to criticise the English police given their refusal to provide the information the Portuguese wanted concerning the McCanns.  IMFO, the English police behaved abominably in refusing the Portuguese requests. Who were they protecting and why?

[Brietta]

I doubt it very much given the humiliation that followed. IMO he was right to criticise the English police given their refusal to provide the information the Portuguese wanted concerning the McCanns.  IMFO, the English police behaved abominably in refusing the Portuguese requests. Who were they protecting and why?

Hmm ... and there was me thinking that Amaral's narrative when it suits him, was that the English police were hand in glove with the Portuguese ... except when he put a tail on their senior officers in what seems to me to be a display of paranoia, to keep an eye on them. (TOTL)

Actually I think the incident which caused his sacking from the case was an intemperate outburst to a journalist caused when he was sent a copy of an email in evidence in which an informant suggested a motive of revenge for Madeleine's kidnap by a sacked employee of the Ocean club when he had already decided on his arguidos.
Snip
He told Portuguese newspaper Diario de Noticias: "The Ocean Club is in Praia da Luz, not in London.

"That means that anything in respect to the complex and the employees – current or ex – has been or is being investigated by the Policia Judiciaria.

"It won't be an email, and an anonymous one at that, which will distract our line of investigation." He even claimed the tipoff was created by the McCanns.


Do you think there was a bit of tit for tat in operation when the Portuguese refused Scotland Yard permission to take forensic samples (fingerprints & DNA) from their arguidos in 2014? 
Were they being protected too? 

Or was it  was simply that it would have been illegal to hand over the information the Portuguese were asking for just as it was deemed illegal for Portuguese to hand over the information SY wanted to access.

Why do you think it is that everything associated with Amaral has a conspiracy theory tacked onto it somewhere?


Ingleses pedem ADN de arguidos a todo o custo no caso Maddie
Britons ask for DNA from defendants at all costs in Maddie case

02 Julho 2014 às 00:28
A Polícia britânica chegou a pedir à Polícia Judiciária para proceder à recolha de impressões digitais e o perfil de ADN dos quatro suspeitos agora constituídos arguidos.
The British Police even asked the Judicial Police to carry out the fingerprints and DNA profile of the four suspects now constituted defendants
O pedido consta de uma carta rogatória de julho do ano passado, mas foi contestada pela PJ, por se tratar de uma ilegalidade.
The request is contained in a letter rogatory of July last year, but was challenged by the JUDICIARY, because it is illegal.
https://www.jn.pt/nacional/dossiers/o-caso-maddie-mccann/ingleses-pedem-adn-de-arguidos-a-todo-o-custo-no-caso-maddie-4003235.html?id=4003235