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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #9720 on: February 23, 2021, 10:43:43 AM »
Logistics.  Nothing to do with knowing Gerry.

Logistics...

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Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #9721 on: February 23, 2021, 10:47:09 AM »
An informed guess, based on what we know of Gerry, what his nearest and dearest have said about him, on the observations of the FLOs subsequently, on what is known of human behaviour and natural reactions to extreme stress and grief, etc.  Is there any evidence to support the view that Gerry was the kind of person who could deal with the sudden death of his own child in such a relaxed way?  If so perhaps you could provide it.

As a doctor he is trained to deal with stress, grief & death.

If he wasn't capable of dealing with those instances he wouldn't be a very good doctor.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #9722 on: February 23, 2021, 10:51:48 AM »
The thing that gets me about Gerry's 9pm check is how he stopped & admired Maddie & how beautiful she was etc etc.

He doesn't, however, mention any similar feelings about his other offspring, who lay just a matter of inches away from him.

One can only assume he just didn't like them as much.

As I recall, it took time for the 'proud father' story to emerge, and if I remember correctly the twins were added in at some stage.
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #9723 on: February 23, 2021, 10:54:25 AM »
Logistics.  Nothing to do with knowing Gerry.

Some people claim to know how others would react. Just guessing imo.
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #9724 on: February 23, 2021, 10:55:41 AM »
As a doctor he is trained to deal with stress, grief & death.

If he wasn't capable of dealing with those instances he wouldn't be a very good doctor.

What a mean spirited post and sooooooooooooooooooooooo totally unnecessary at this remove.
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Offline Lace

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« Reply #9725 on: February 23, 2021, 10:57:32 AM »
And he had just checked on his children...at 9pm. Wilkins said in his statement that his chat with Gerry could have been anytime between 8.45 and 9.15 and Diane Webster, by far the most transparent witness of the group IMO, does not remember Gerry being there when she arrived. Taking these witnesses into account it is entirely possible that Gerry did a check at 9.

From Jeremy Wilkins statement -

I do not remember having seen anyone else at this time besides Gerry. After leaving each other, Gerry walked downward in the direction of the Tapas Bar and I began to walk in the other direction, up the pathway. I turned left at the crossing and passed the apartment. I did not meet anyone else during my walk and once in my apartment, I did not venture out again.


'Gerry walked towards the Tapas Bar'.  Ties in exactly to what Gerry says himself after speaking to Jeremy he went back to the Tapas Bar.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #9726 on: February 23, 2021, 10:58:47 AM »
As a doctor he is trained to deal with stress, grief & death.

If he wasn't capable of dealing with those instances he wouldn't be a very good doctor.
Is he trained to deal with stress, grief and death of his own children?  Is he trained to cover up their deaths and to dispose of their bodies in the dark without vehicle or tools, in an unfamiliar environment without anyone ever finding them? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #9727 on: February 23, 2021, 11:00:34 AM »
As I recall, it took time for the 'proud father' story to emerge, and if I remember correctly the twins were added in at some stage.
Are you suggesting that Gerry does not have the usual emotional, father connections to his children and that these were manufactured for the press?
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Offline Lace

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« Reply #9728 on: February 23, 2021, 11:01:25 AM »
As a doctor he is trained to deal with stress, grief & death.

If he wasn't capable of dealing with those instances he wouldn't be a very good doctor.


Yes he is trained to deal with stress grief and death.   How not to show emotion when dealing with the bereaved,  though many Drs have been know to break down in tears.   They are trained to deal with this but not for their own family,  Drs are not usually allowed to operate on one of their own family as emotion gets in the way.   It is very different dealing with strangers than dealing with their own family.   Madeleine was Gerry's daughter very different indeed.

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #9729 on: February 23, 2021, 11:01:45 AM »
As I recall, it took time for the 'proud father' story to emerge, and if I remember correctly the twins were added in at some stage.

Such a sad part to the story, that just moments after contemplating how much he cherished his precious daughter, before pissing off out & leaving her to fend for herself again, some nasty paedophile (not quite sure how he knew this) comes in through the *window, *locked/unlocked front door, *patio doors, or was already *hiding in the apartment (*delete as applicable) & he never see's her again.

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Offline Lace

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #9730 on: February 23, 2021, 11:03:24 AM »
I assume you don't know Gerry McCann? How can you therefore claim to know what he was or wasn't capable of? In my opinion you can't, you're just guessing.


Gerry was a loving father,   you don't need to guess do you?   How would any loving father deal with finding their child dead?   

Offline Lace

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« Reply #9731 on: February 23, 2021, 11:04:46 AM »
Such a sad part to the story, that just moments after contemplating how much he cherished his precious daughter, before pissing off out & leaving her to fend for herself again, some nasty paedophile (not quite sure how he knew this) comes in through the *window, *locked/unlocked front door, *patio doors, or was already *hiding in the apartment (*delete as applicable) & he never see's her again.

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Well you would think that way,  as I said you have no compassion.
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Offline Lace

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« Reply #9732 on: February 23, 2021, 11:06:47 AM »
As I recall, it took time for the 'proud father' story to emerge, and if I remember correctly the twins were added in at some stage.

So Gerry wasn't a proud father?   What are you trying to say?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #9733 on: February 23, 2021, 11:09:25 AM »
Such a sad part to the story, that just moments after contemplating how much he cherished his precious daughter, before pissing off out & leaving her to fend for herself again, some nasty paedophile (not quite sure how he knew this) comes in through the *window, *locked/unlocked front door, *patio doors, or was already *hiding in the apartment (*delete as applicable) & he never see's her again.

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This sounds a bit slur-ry to me.  You really are very upset about Gerry aren't you?  Poor thing, was the nasty man beastly to you too? 
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Offline jassi

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« Reply #9734 on: February 23, 2021, 11:10:29 AM »
So Gerry wasn't a proud father?   What are you trying to say?

He may have been, but I think he very much over-egged the pudding when he came out with that statement.
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