Wandering Off Topic

[Vertigo Swirl]

Interview Grime, Harrison. Re-interview the people involved, maybe something new comes up. Just don't focus on one scenario based on evidence they didn't even gather.

How about focusing on abduction being the most plausible, logical scenario as the starting point of the new investigation and then seeing where the evidence takes you from there, bearing in mind that new evidence may be gathered that supports other scenarios which may also need checking out?

[Icanhandlethetruth]

How about focusing on abduction being the most plausible, logical scenario as the starting point of the new investigation and then seeing where the evidence takes you from there, bearing in mind that new evidence may be gathered that supports other scenarios which may also need checking out?

That what SY has being doing for the last however many years, and where has it got them?
I don't mind them investigating abduction, but not to the exclusion of any other scenario. Why limit the investigation? Even Davel hasn't totally ruled out parent involvement.

[Vertigo Swirl]

That what SY has being doing for the last however many years, and where has it got them?
I don't mind them investigating abduction, but not to the exclusion of any other scenario. Why limit the investigation?

Who told you they have excluded any other scenario?

[Icanhandlethetruth]

Who told you they have excluded any other scenario?

I thought we agreed on that earlier? Is the consensus broken?

[Vertigo Swirl]

I thought we agreed on that earlier? Is the consensus broken?

No, the consensus (between you and me) was that Operation Grange did not reinvestigate the parents at the beginning .  That does not mean that should evidence come to light that points that way that the police would exclude it as being not worthy of further investigation does it?

[Vertigo Swirl]

In any case by focusing on abduction, that would not preclude the possibility that Murat was involved and had the investigation taken them down that route he may well have been reinvestigated.  As far as I know he was not, though was he not reinterviewed as a witness at one point by OG?

[Mr Gray]

So don't throw it all out, investigate the dog alerts, investigate the timelines, question the people closest involved just don't focus on a single scenario based on evidence you didn't even gather yourself.

What do you mean by investigate the dog alerts.. Investigate what

All those involved have given statements... They may well have interviewed the mccanns and tapas again.
They didn't just focus  on a single scenario... They looked at all the evidence and decided abduction was by far the most likely

[Vertigo Swirl]

In any case by focusing on abduction, that would not preclude the possibility that Murat was involved and had the investigation taken them down that route he may well have been reinvestigated.  As far as I know he was not, though was he not reinterviewed as a witness at one point by OG?

yes he was

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/10/madeleine-mccann-robert-murat-re-interviewed

[Icanhandlethetruth]

yes he was

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/10/madeleine-mccann-robert-murat-re-interviewed

Are you now arguing with yourself. I agreed that he should have been interviewed. Glad to hear he was.

[Icanhandlethetruth]

What do you mean by investigate the dog alerts.. Investigate what

All those involved have given statements... They may well have interviewed the mccanns and tapas again.
They didn't just focus  on a single scenario... They looked at all the evidence and decided abduction was by far the most likely

Question Grime and Harrison, I already said.
The point I am making is that SY decided not to investigate the scenario of parental involvement after reviewing the seemingly unreliable evidence of the PJ and the hardly impartial evidence of detectives paid by the McCann's.
If you are happy with that situation, good for you, personally I am not.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Are you now arguing with yourself. I agreed that he should have been interviewed. Glad to hear he was.

No, not arguing with myself, merely confirming what I wrote in my previous post.  He was not being reinvestigated as a suspect, but interviewed as a witness.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Question Grime and Harrison, I already said.
The point I am making is that SY decided not to investigate the scenario of parental involvement after reviewing the seemingly unreliable evidence of the PJ and the hardly impartial evidence of detectives paid by the McCann's.
If you are happy with that situation, good for you, personally I am not.

this is the same evidence you think contains evidence pointing to parental involvement- so is it reliable or unreliable in your view? 

[Vertigo Swirl]

Question Grime and Harrison, I already said.
The point I am making is that SY decided not to investigate the scenario of parental involvement after reviewing the seemingly unreliable evidence of the PJ and the hardly impartial evidence of detectives paid by the McCann's.
If you are happy with that situation, good for you, personally I am not.

What questions who you have had them ask Grime and Harrison out of interest?

[Mr Gray]

Question Grime and Harrison, I already said.
The point I am making is that SY decided not to investigate the scenario of parental involvement after reviewing the seemingly unreliable evidence of the PJ and the hardly impartial evidence of detectives paid by the McCann's.
If you are happy with that situation, good for you, personally I am not.

What questions would you ask Harrison and Grime.  I seem to recall somewhere Harrison saying they briefed the PJ and confirmed the alerts were not evidential.

They have both given very full statements on the alerts... I really think you are giving the alerts more credibility than they deserve

[Mr Gray]

Question Grime and Harrison, I already said.
The point I am making is that SY decided not to investigate the scenario of parental involvement after reviewing the seemingly unreliable evidence of the PJ and the hardly impartial evidence of detectives paid by the McCann's.
If you are happy with that situation, good for you, personally I am not.

SY had the  McCanns statements... Plus the new ones they made when they realised the originals had mistakes... They had all the other statements and as I understand  felt the accounts stacked up.  Again I think you only question that because you give too much credibility to the dogs