Wandering Off Topic

[Icanhandlethetruth]

Ooh, prickly!  I asked my initial question because you seemed to know what you were talking about, sorry for misunderstanding.

Not prickly at all. I have never said I knew anything about training cadaver dogs. Most of my posts have been about the admissibility of such evidence. Keep up.

[Carana]

will they give an alert for dried blood from a living human that was once in situ but is no longer?

That doesn't appear to have ever been clarified. Somewhere in those documents, he stated that Keela would only react to the physical presence of blood, but he said no such thing about Eddie.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Not prickly at all. I have never said I new anything about training cadaver dogs. Most of my posts have been about the admissibility of such evidence. Keep up.

It’s “knew” not “new” btw, and if you didn’t know you should have said so in answer to the original question imo.

[Vertigo Swirl]

That doesn't appear to have ever been clarified. Somewhere in those documents, he stated that Keela would only react to the physical presence of blood, but he said no such thing about Eddie.

It’s possible he doesn’t really know himself I guess...

[Icanhandlethetruth]

It’s “knew” not “new” btw, and if you didn’t know you should have said so in answer to the original question imo.

Did that make you feel a little bit more superior correcting my spelling? Do you think I don’t know how to spell knew? Petty, oh so so petty.
PS. I corrected it just in case its an OCD thing with you.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Did that make you feel a little bit more superior correcting my spelling? Do you think I don’t know how to spell knew? Petty, oh so so petty.
PS. I corrected it just in case its an OCD thing with you.

I just didn’t like being instructed by you (patronisingly) to “keep up”, that was all.  Oh and it’s “pretty” not “petty”, so, so pretty, but I’m sure you new that 

[Mr Gray]

Does it even make sense though, they would have 2 dogs and it is possible that they were trained in such a way that a bark only from the cadaver dog could mean he was alerting to diluted blood that the blood dog wouldn't alert to. Do you have so little faith in the intellect and ability of British police forces that that scenario is even possible.
It beggars belief.

It does beggar belief... But that is precisely what Grime has said... He's also said the cadaver dog alerts to teeth.. Then contradicts himself in his white paper

[Vertigo Swirl]

It does beggar belief... But that is precisely what Grime has said... He's also said the cadaver dog alerts to teeth.. Then contradicts himself in his white paper

WRT to remnant scent dog alerts the phrase “making it up as he goes along” springs to mind...

[Mr Gray]

WRT to remnant scent dog alerts the phrase “making it up as he goes along” springs to mind...

I actually think Grime and Harrison invented remnant scent. As a form of intelligence so yes... Making it up on the hoof

[G-Unit]

I actually think Grime and Harrison invented remnant scent. As a form of intelligence so yes... Making it up on the hoof

Did they ever use the words 'remnant scent', or has someone else invented the term?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Did they ever use the words 'remnant scent', or has someone else invented the term?

What is the cadaver dog alerting to when no body is present?

[John]

What is the cadaver dog alerting to when no body is present?

Could be anything that it is trained to alert to and not necessarily the remnant scent from a body which didn't even need to have actually been there due to scent transfer.

All we know and have seen for ourselves in the various videos provided is that the cadaver dogs did alert to something. Unfortunately however, this is a long way from stating with any certainty that a cadaver was present in 5a.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Could be anything that it is trained to alert to and not necessarily the remnant scent from a body which didn't even need to have actually been there due to scent transfer.

All we know and have seen for ourselves in the various videos provided is that the cadaver dogs did alert to something. Unfortunately however, this is a long way from stating with any certainty that a cadaver was present in 5a.

Quite.  It's all very vague isn't it?

[Mr Gray]

Did they ever use the words 'remnant scent', or has someone else invented the term?

Whats wrong with the term.. Or is your post just being pedantic

[G-Unit]

What is the cadaver dog alerting to when no body is present?

Is that meant to distract me? Just answer my question; when did Harrison or Grime mention 'remnant scent'?