Wandering Off Topic

[Brietta]

I think Eddie's alert spectrum was far too wide to be of much use.

He did alert appropriately when there was nothing there but fortunately it was explained exactly why before it could become yet another huge mystery.

For example he alerted at a tree where cremation ashes had been scattered.

What he alerted to as witnessed on the Jersey video clip is a mystery just as are his alerts in Luz are which is why it is so ridiculous that such a cult has been built around them.

[Mr Gray]

Eddie's job was to alert when he smelled the odours he was trained to find. Some human beings THINK he alerted to NOTHING, but they can't KNOW if that's true or not.

Amaral wasn't in charge of the investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance, Neves and Encarnacao were.

No one knows what Eddie alerted to.. That st is a fact and its about time you accepted that.
Grime THINKS Eddie may have alerted to cadaver... Thats all there is .

[G-Unit]

No one knows what Eddie alerted to.. That st is a fact and its about time you accepted that.
Grime THINKS Eddie may have alerted to cadaver... Thats all there is .

I think the most likely answer is that Eddie alerted to what he was trained to alert to, but I don't know that for sure. The fanciful ones are those who think they do know, and suggest he alerted to either nothing or a wide variety of substances of which the most ridiculous imo was garden fertilizer.

[Mr Gray]

I think the most likely answer is that Eddie alerted to what he was trained to alert to, but I don't know that for sure. The fanciful ones are those who think they do know, and suggest he alerted to either nothing or a wide variety of substances of which the most ridiculous imo was garden fertilizer.

If it transpires that MM did not die in the apartment... And its proved.. I wonder what excuse Grime will come up with.. Any ideas

[Eleanor]

I think the most likely answer is that Eddie alerted to what he was trained to alert to, but I don't know that for sure. The fanciful ones are those who think they do know, and suggest he alerted to either nothing or a wide variety of substances of which the most ridiculous imo was garden fertilizer.

What exactly was Eddie trained to alert to before he was trained to alert to something else?

[Eleanor]

If it transpires that MM did not die in the apartment... And its proved.. I wonder what excuse Grime will come up with.. Any ideas

No Comment?

[Mr Gray]

I think the most likely answer is that Eddie alerted to what he was trained to alert to, but I don't know that for sure. The fanciful ones are those who think they do know, and suggest he alerted to either nothing or a wide variety of substances of which the most ridiculous imo was garden fertilizer.

Logically the alerts make no dense unledd MM died before the McCanns left for the tapas bar... So no neglect.. Why would they want to cover up a death before they left. It just gets more and more ridiculous

[Carana]

What exactly was Eddie trained to alert to before he was trained to alert to something else?

More interesting, IMO, is what he would not alert to.

- So far, roadkill. What was that? What's the list?

-  How many people could he have encountered who would have eaten decomposing piglets?

[Eleanor]

More interesting, IMO, is what he would not alert to.

- So far, roadkill. What was that? What's the list?

-  How many people could he have encountered who would have eaten decomposing piglets?

There doesn't appear to be a lot that Eddie wouldn't alert to after Grime had done with him.

[misty]

I think the most likely answer is that Eddie alerted to what he was trained to alert to, but I don't know that for sure. The fanciful ones are those who think they do know, and suggest he alerted to either nothing or a wide variety of substances of which the most ridiculous imo was garden fertilizer.

Many common garden fertilisers contain peat/peat moss. Peat can confuse cadaver dogs.
https://www.murderscience.com/articles/2018/1/29/cadaver-dogs-
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"All of this assumes the scent that the dog is interested in is the correct one. While there can be other smells that could mislead cadaver dogs, like the methane released from disturbed peat-rich soil 6 , the main concern for police and handlers is the scent of animal remains. Some handlers train their dogs using pig remains due to the difficulty and hazards of getting human remains."

IIRC Grime worked on a case in USA around 2014 with Stockham/FBI which involved searching a bog after a missing girl's clothes were found there. I can't remember the name of the mp nor if the body was also found.

[G-Unit]

Many common garden fertilisers contain peat/peat moss. Peat can confuse cadaver dogs.
https://www.murderscience.com/articles/2018/1/29/cadaver-dogs-
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"All of this assumes the scent that the dog is interested in is the correct one. While there can be other smells that could mislead cadaver dogs, like the methane released from disturbed peat-rich soil 6 , the main concern for police and handlers is the scent of animal remains. Some handlers train their dogs using pig remains due to the difficulty and hazards of getting human remains."

IIRC Grime worked on a case in USA around 2014 with Stockham/FBI which involved searching a bog after a missing girl's clothes were found there. I can't remember the name of the mp nor if the body was also found.

Firstly I don't know if the smell of methane affects a cadaver dog; how was that assertained? Secondly, Apartment 5A wasn't a peat bog, nor did it contain fertilizer.

[Brietta]

Firstly I don't know if the smell of methane affects a cadaver dog; how was that assertained? Secondly, Apartment 5A wasn't a peat bog, nor did it contain fertilizer.

You are the one who ridiculed the notion of garden fertiliser.

Misty is the one who corrected you on that 😁

[Vertigo Swirl]

Firstly I don't know if the smell of methane affects a cadaver dog; how was that assertained? Secondly, Apartment 5A wasn't a peat bog, nor did it contain fertilizer.

IMO it was more likely to contain fertilizer (brought in on shoes that had been walking on an area recently treated) than a dead body.  No one is saying Eddie alerted to fertilzer anyway but the fact is there is a long list of possible explanations for the alerts and only one of them (and the least likely imo) is the one time presence of a dead body on May 3rd.

[Eleanor]

You are the one who ridiculed the notion of garden fertiliser.

Misty is the one who corrected you on that 😁

Didn't Eddie sort of alert to the flower bed outside 5a?  But Grime never followed up on it?

[Brietta]

Didn't Eddie sort of alert to the flower bed outside 5a?  But Grime never followed up on it?

I believe he did.