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Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10440 on: June 11, 2021, 03:14:14 PM »
Not sure what you mean by a "deep clean", Bri. This was way before recent Corona virus parents had even winked at each other across a bar in a virus disco. ;)

Hi Carana ~ what I mean by 'deep clean' is stripping the room down with changes of sheets and towels etc between guests departing and arriving - rather than just swinging in to give the apartment a quick once over for guests there over a few days.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Carana

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10441 on: June 11, 2021, 03:34:11 PM »
The dog's role was to indicate areas where evidence might be found. I would think that anything found within that area would carry the scent to which the dog alerted, so there was nothing to be gained by asking him to screen those items individually.

"Might" being the operative word.

None was found.

Which didn't stop a certain ex-head-honcho PJ officer from making a mint out of his short-lived "investigation".

Whether he really did leave of his own volition or was booted with x-months's salary to find another job, he could have written a very different account of his time on the case, and it would still have been a bestseller.

If he had written a book that described the difficulties he'd faced (lack of computers, difficulties in back-up staff... generally gripes against slow procedures, the system in generall, I'd have found it more useful).

However, my objection is that's not what his book was about. And the book was fairly benign compared to the "docufiction", his column in whichever rag, plus innnumerable interviews, and whatever else he had planned. Ho

However, that's not what he did. He tried to convince everyone that she had indeed died in that flat and the parents (and others) had all been criminally involved, based on the flimsiest of "evidence".

In the meantime - and however remote the idea may be now (in 2021) that she could still be alive 14 years later - 1-2 years after her disappearance, or even later, there was nothing tangible to assert the contrary. The effect, for many, could (and probably was) that there was no longer any point in being vigilant concerning a child who might have been held captive).

He was effectively scuppering chances of her being found alive. What honest copper (and a dad, to boot), could be so heartless?





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Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10442 on: June 11, 2021, 04:22:30 PM »
"Might" being the operative word.

None was found.

Which didn't stop a certain ex-head-honcho PJ officer from making a mint out of his short-lived "investigation".

Whether he really did leave of his own volition or was booted with x-months's salary to find another job, he could have written a very different account of his time on the case, and it would still have been a bestseller.

If he had written a book that described the difficulties he'd faced (lack of computers, difficulties in back-up staff... generally gripes against slow procedures, the system in generall, I'd have found it more useful).

However, my objection is that's not what his book was about. And the book was fairly benign compared to the "docufiction", his column in whichever rag, plus innnumerable interviews, and whatever else he had planned. Ho

However, that's not what he did. He tried to convince everyone that she had indeed died in that flat and the parents (and others) had all been criminally involved, based on the flimsiest of "evidence".

In the meantime - and however remote the idea may be now (in 2021) that she could still be alive 14 years later - 1-2 years after her disappearance, or even later, there was nothing tangible to assert the contrary. The effect, for many, could (and probably was) that there was no longer any point in being vigilant concerning a child who might have been held captive).

He was effectively scuppering chances of her being found alive. What honest copper (and a dad, to boot), could be so heartless?

There was no proof of Madeleine's death let alone what might have happened to her.  Trying to pin down a suspect against whom there was no evidence before ascertaining what had happened showed a limited vision.

It seems as far as Amaral was concerned the case stood or fell on finding a culprit - anyone would do - and he just did not understand the diligences required to search for a missing child.

The fact that no body was found in the vicinity within a few hours of Madeleine's disappearance surely should have been an indication that there was still some hope for her return.
Instead with the hasty focus on Murat against whom he was unable to find evidence being transferred to Madeleine's parents also against whom there was no evidence he effectively gave up on Madeleine as a result.

For the life of me I cannot understand the vendetta he has carried out against the McCanns over fourteen years - it has all been so unnecessary and talk about kicking people when they are down and at their lowest ebb.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2021, 04:24:38 PM by Brietta »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10443 on: June 11, 2021, 04:55:54 PM »
There was no proof of Madeleine's death let alone what might have happened to her.  Trying to pin down a suspect against whom there was no evidence before ascertaining what had happened showed a limited vision.

It seems as far as Amaral was concerned the case stood or fell on finding a culprit - anyone would do - and he just did not understand the diligences required to search for a missing child.

The fact that no body was found in the vicinity within a few hours of Madeleine's disappearance surely should have been an indication that there was still some hope for her return.
Instead with the hasty focus on Murat against whom he was unable to find evidence being transferred to Madeleine's parents also against whom there was no evidence he effectively gave up on Madeleine as a result.

For the life of me I cannot understand the vendetta he has carried out against the McCanns over fourteen years - it has all been so unnecessary and talk about kicking people when they are down and at their lowest ebb.

In My Opinion Amaral only fixated on Murat because he knew that The McCanns could not have disposed of a body without help from a local with a car.

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10444 on: June 11, 2021, 05:06:53 PM »
In My Opinion Amaral only fixated on Murat because he knew that The McCanns could not have disposed of a body without help from a local with a car.

There certainly was a movement amongst the Amaral leaning fora posters to try to  make an association with Murat along those lines.
Obviously because in their heart of hearts they knew there had to be a local element.  They were not to know that a rapist - burglar - and paedophile had according to Amaral been checked out by the Judicial police.  Perhaps if they had it would have put a different perspective on things.  Or - sadly - perhaps it would not 😢

"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10445 on: June 11, 2021, 05:13:40 PM »
There certainly was a movement amongst the Amaral leaning fora posters to try to  make an association with Murat along those lines.
Obviously because in their heart of hearts they knew there had to be a local element.  They were not to know that a rapist - burglar - and paedophile had according to Amaral been checked out by the Judicial police.  Perhaps if they had it would have put a different perspective on things.  Or - sadly - perhaps it would not 😢

Probably not.  Amaral almost certainly didn't want outside interference to debunk his "Theory" for all the world to see.

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #10446 on: June 11, 2021, 05:20:01 PM »
Since they couldn't even spell the name of The Site correctly then one has to wonder where they thought they were.

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Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10447 on: June 11, 2021, 05:27:19 PM »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #10448 on: June 11, 2021, 05:28:52 PM »

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10449 on: June 11, 2021, 05:30:09 PM »
Read your comment 10434.

      Beat you to it 😀
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10450 on: June 11, 2021, 05:55:46 PM »
      Beat you to it 😀

Thank you.

I sometimes wonder if G Unit is doing a deliberate hatchet job on herself these days.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10451 on: June 11, 2021, 06:46:34 PM »
What scientific studies have been done on dogs ability to detect remnant scent theough a layer of concrete, ie: sniff out the temporary resting place of a corpse years that lay in situ years earlier that is subsequently removed and the resting placed covered in concrete?  Anyone know?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10452 on: June 11, 2021, 06:53:04 PM »
What scientific studies have been done on dogs ability to detect remnant scent theough a layer of concrete, ie: sniff out the temporary resting place of a corpse years that lay in situ years earlier that is subsequently removed and the resting placed covered in concrete?  Anyone know?

Sounds like a lot of hard work to me.

Offline misty

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« Reply #10453 on: June 11, 2021, 07:00:48 PM »
What scientific studies have been done on dogs ability to detect remnant scent theough a layer of concrete, ie: sniff out the temporary resting place of a corpse years that lay in situ years earlier that is subsequently removed and the resting placed covered in concrete?  Anyone know?

Is that question related to the Kristin Smart case?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10454 on: June 11, 2021, 07:03:41 PM »
Is that question related to the Kristin Smart case?
No the Haut La Garenne case, as some people seem convinced Eddie alerted to cadaver scent not a coconut shell.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".