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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10785 on: August 17, 2021, 10:05:31 AM »
I have seen their statements presented as absolute truth, when their variations show that they are not. I highlight those variations to highlight that point, not to assign suspicious motives. That is an accusation levelled at me by others who believe that's my aim.
Who has presented their statements as "absolute truth"?  That is a nonsensical accusation and I don't think you will able to back it up. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #10786 on: August 17, 2021, 10:16:12 AM »
Who has presented their statements as "absolute truth"?  That is a nonsensical accusation and I don't think you will able to back it up.

I don't think that anyone did.  But that's a minor detail.

Anything to undermine The McCanns.  Although Why is a mystery to me.

Offline Brietta

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« Reply #10787 on: August 17, 2021, 10:31:30 AM »
I have seen their statements presented as absolute truth, when their variations show that they are not. I highlight those variations to highlight that point, not to assign suspicious motives. That is an accusation levelled at me by others who believe that's my aim.

Goodness me - I don't think I've ever read that.  I have seen such things as parts of statements being verified by weighing up the evidence much as Pegasus did when assessing Kate's experience with the curtains and the actual science of the VENTURI effect.

I think most intelligent people know that in a room full of witnesses to an event, each witness will see things differently which is reflected in how they report it.
We've seen experiments and studies to that effect - or presumably most of us have.

I have seen it said and I have often repeated it - that the problem with the tapas statements would have been had they all been word perfect and their timings matched all to the nth degree.
Now THAT really would have been suspicious.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #10788 on: August 17, 2021, 10:40:22 AM »

Why are No Sceptics prepared to say for why they are doing this when nothing will come from it?

They won't prove that The McCanns are guilty, so what is the point?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #10789 on: August 17, 2021, 11:08:36 AM »
Why are No Sceptics prepared to say for why they are doing this when nothing will come from it?

They won't prove that The McCanns are guilty, so what is the point?
Everyone needs a hobby.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

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« Reply #10790 on: August 17, 2021, 11:10:07 AM »
Why are No Sceptics prepared to say for why they are doing this when nothing will come from it?

They won't prove that The McCanns are guilty, so what is the point?


You might as well ask what is the point of anything on this forum? It certainly isn't going to change anything.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #10791 on: August 17, 2021, 11:15:36 AM »
Everyone needs a hobby.

You are right of course.  So why am I doing this?

I suppose it is in some vain attempt to support Innocent Until Proven Guilty.  I have been shocked rigid by the repeated attempts to deny this fact.

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #10792 on: August 17, 2021, 11:21:59 AM »

You might as well ask what is the point of anything on this forum? It certainly isn't going to change anything.

This is true.

Me?  I was a bit lonely in days of yore, living on my own at the time.  But I was involved from the start and quite devastated by this mindless desire to blame The McCanns when it was obvious that it simply wasn't possible.

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #10793 on: August 17, 2021, 12:05:52 PM »
This is true.

Me?  I was a bit lonely in days of yore, living on my own at the time.  But I was involved from the start and quite devastated by this mindless desire to blame The McCanns when it was obvious that it simply wasn't possible.

I, on the other hand, was astonished by the insistence of some that no part of the McCann group's statements should be examined and/or questioned. Not only that, but anyone doing so was assumed to be seeking to blame, libel or harm one, two or all of them.
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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #10794 on: August 17, 2021, 12:11:52 PM »
I, on the other hand, was astonished by the insistence of some that no part of the McCann group's statements should be examined and/or questioned. Not only that, but anyone doing so was assumed to be seeking to blame, libel or harm one, two or all of them.

Has it done any good, examining The Statements?

It has only told me that you are on a hiding to nothing.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #10795 on: August 17, 2021, 12:23:26 PM »
I, on the other hand, was astonished by the insistence of some that no part of the McCann group's statements should be examined and/or questioned. Not only that, but anyone doing so was assumed to be seeking to blame, libel or harm one, two or all of them.
Again, more unsubstantiated hyperbole
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

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« Reply #10796 on: August 17, 2021, 12:39:55 PM »
I, on the other hand, was astonished by the insistence of some that no part of the McCann group's statements should be examined and/or questioned. Not only that, but anyone doing so was assumed to be seeking to blame, libel or harm one, two or all of them.

I think the problem you may be having is that when you are posting here you are required to bear British libel laws in mind.
Perhaps that is why you feel confined by the restraints observance of which causes your complaint.  I can see no reasoning other than that by your post.

Nothing really to get another chip on your shoulder about.  We all have to observe the law even if some sceptics manage to abrogate common decency in the process.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

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« Reply #10797 on: August 18, 2021, 02:00:10 AM »
You are right of course.  So why am I doing this?

I suppose it is in some vain attempt to support Innocent Until Proven Guilty.  I have been shocked rigid by the repeated attempts to deny this fact.

I'll be interested to read your posts on CB's current "innocence" of killing Madeleine.

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #10798 on: August 18, 2021, 06:34:48 AM »
I think the problem you may be having is that when you are posting here you are required to bear British libel laws in mind.
Perhaps that is why you feel confined by the restraints observance of which causes your complaint.  I can see no reasoning other than that by your post.

Nothing really to get another chip on your shoulder about.  We all have to observe the law even if some sceptics manage to abrogate common decency in the process.

No, that's not it.
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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #10799 on: August 18, 2021, 07:56:17 AM »
I'll be interested to read your posts on CB's current "innocence" of killing Madeleine.

Check my previous posts.  I have already said several times that Brueckner is entitled to The Presumption of Innocence, as is everyone.