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Offline Lace

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« Reply #10935 on: September 02, 2021, 01:49:47 PM »
Jane could only see the lower legs of the child Tannerman was carrying.
I disregard Smith sighting of a child wearing long-sleeved, long-legged clothing.

I did wonder about one of the Smith family saying the child"s pyjamas had long sleeves.   How could this person tell if the arms of the man were across the child's arms?

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

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« Reply #10936 on: September 02, 2021, 07:05:06 PM »
I did wonder about one of the Smith family saying the child"s pyjamas had long sleeves.   How could this person tell if the arms of the man were across the child's arms?

It would be hard to carry a child that way and totally obscure some sight of their arms with your arms…. It’s more normal of course for the arms to be round the parents back…. But they did say this girl looked asleep so I guess she’s not clinging on to her Dad imo

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #10937 on: September 02, 2021, 07:48:12 PM »
It would be hard to carry a child that way and totally obscure some sight of their arms with your arms…. It’s more normal of course for the arms to be round the parents back…. But they did say this girl looked asleep so I guess she’s not clinging on to her Dad imo

Aoife Smith;

She did not see the child's face because she was lying against the individual's left shoulder in a vertical position against the individual. She appeared to be sleeping. Her arms were suspended along her body and were not around the individual's neck.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm

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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

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« Reply #10938 on: September 03, 2021, 01:37:31 AM »
Aoife Smith;

She did not see the child's face because she was lying against the individual's left shoulder in a vertical position against the individual. She appeared to be sleeping. Her arms were suspended along her body and were not around the individual's neck.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm

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Yes exactly. So here you can also see the adult's arm is "across" the arm of the child but it does not prevent you seeing the sleeves of the child's top.

Offline misty

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« Reply #10939 on: September 03, 2021, 02:24:02 AM »
Yes exactly. So here you can also see the adult's arm is "across" the arm of the child but it does not prevent you seeing the sleeves of the child's top.

So you are absolutely in no doubt that Aoife saw a child wearing long-sleeved clothing and couldn't possibly have been mistaken. Bearing in mind that not one of the Smith family disagreed with her either at the time or later on in the year, what possible reason would anyone looking for Madeleine have had for believing that the child seen by the Smiths was Madeleine?

Offline barrier

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« Reply #10940 on: September 03, 2021, 07:25:47 AM »
So you are absolutely in no doubt that Aoife saw a child wearing long-sleeved clothing and couldn't possibly have been mistaken. Bearing in mind that not one of the Smith family disagreed with her either at the time or later on in the year, what possible reason would anyone looking for Madeleine have had for believing that the child seen by the Smiths was Madeleine?
Why did Redwood describe the child, fitting the description close to that of Madeleine ?
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #10941 on: September 03, 2021, 07:38:59 AM »
So you are absolutely in no doubt that Aoife saw a child wearing long-sleeved clothing and couldn't possibly have been mistaken. Bearing in mind that not one of the Smith family disagreed with her either at the time or later on in the year, what possible reason would anyone looking for Madeleine have had for believing that the child seen by the Smiths was Madeleine?

Why would abyone have believed that Tannerman was carrying Madeleine, based on a pair of legs?

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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #10942 on: September 03, 2021, 07:42:39 AM »
Why did Redwood describe the child, fitting the description close to that of Madeleine ?

Who knows what Redwood thought.  He doesn't seem to have had much handle on it all as far as I can see.

Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #10943 on: September 03, 2021, 07:56:15 AM »
Why would abyone have believed that Tannerman was carrying Madeleine, based on a pair of legs?

Why would anyone believe thst Smiths ID of Smithman could be in any way reliable being based on the way the child was being carried

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #10944 on: September 03, 2021, 07:59:40 AM »
Why would abyone have believed that Tannerman was carrying Madeleine, based on a pair of legs?

Why would anyone have believed anything of anything?

On balance I think that Smithman was carrying Madeleine, but quite possibly because I hope that Madeleine is still alive.  While you appear to hope not.  Although exactly by whose hand doesn't leave much to the imagination.

And I don't understand why you are doing this.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #10945 on: September 03, 2021, 08:38:51 AM »
Why would abyone have believed that Tannerman was carrying Madeleine, based on a pair of legs?
because she was believed to have gone missing at around the same time of the sighting, which was right by the child’s apartment, a child that appeared to be small and female.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline barrier

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« Reply #10946 on: September 03, 2021, 09:21:48 AM »
Who knows what Redwood thought.  He doesn't seem to have had much handle on it all as far as I can see.


Well you say that, ground was searched, couldn't have been on a whim could it, nothing was found but there again nothing has been found linking CB in the German digs.
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #10947 on: September 03, 2021, 09:24:10 AM »
because she was believed to have gone missing at around the same time of the sighting, which was right by the child’s apartment, a child that appeared to be small and female.

It was Jane Tanner who saw the man, decided the child was female, and gave the time. It was all based on the testimony of one witness.
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Offline barrier

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« Reply #10948 on: September 03, 2021, 09:27:40 AM »
because she was believed to have gone missing at around the same time of the sighting, which was right by the child’s apartment, a child that appeared to be small and female.


There's a circa 45 minute's of time, who decided it was around the time of the Tanner sighting ?
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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #10949 on: September 03, 2021, 09:28:44 AM »
because she was believed to have gone missing at around the same time of the sighting, which was right by the child’s apartment, a child that appeared to be small and female.

You do know that we are all beating our heads against a brick wall, don't you.

I can't actually get myself into thinking that Brueckner did it because I can see no proof.  But I don't need any proof that The McCanns didn't do it because it defies logic. 

And you can forget the wailing and the crying.  That alone wouldn't have convinced me.  But for The McCanns there was never any How did they do this.  They simply could not have done.

For various reasons that I won't go into, I probably wouldn't have liked The McCanns very much, but it's a personal thing and of no consequence.

But for the moment I am very fed up with it all. 
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