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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10965 on: September 03, 2021, 05:05:03 PM »
I don't think we need to consider other sites whose theories are so silly as to be laughable. In fact, mentioning them here is a breach of our rules and moderators should know better.
Is there a list of forums and/or theories we are not allowed to mention on here?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10966 on: September 03, 2021, 09:24:54 PM »
Is there a list of forums and/or theories we are not allowed to mention on here?

This one takes some beating……

https://deconstructingmadeleine.home.blog/2020/06/13/deconstructing-the-madeleine-mccann-story-part-1/

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10967 on: September 03, 2021, 09:28:50 PM »
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10969 on: September 03, 2021, 11:11:47 PM »
Aoife Smith;

She did not see the child's face because she was lying against the individual's left shoulder in a vertical position against the individual. She appeared to be sleeping. Her arms were suspended along her body and were not around the individual's neck.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm

Like this;



From: Long Lindsay
Sent: 20th September, 2007 11:37
CC: Hughes John (DC)
Re: Smith Family

Rec via: TELEPHONE Series: 241 Ident: BC19-8286-1055 20/09/07
Telephone: *********
Locale: Portugal/Out of country
Origin: Mr. Martin Smith 'Ireland

Text: Reported that he passed a male carrying a child in Praia da Luz the night Maddie went missing. Went and made a statement to Portugal police in Portimao on 26th of May and returned to the U.K. Is saying that after seeing McCANNS on the news on 9th of September when they returned to the U.K. He has not slept and is worried sick. He states he was watching the 10 pm news on BBC and saw the McCANNS getting off the plane and coming down the steps. He states it was like watching an action replay of the night he saw the male carrying the child back in Portugal. He states the way Gerry was carrying his twin triggered something in his head. It was exactly the same way and look of the other male seen the night Maddy went missing. He also watched ITV news and SKY news and inferred it looked like the same person both times carrying the children. Is asking a member of the OP Task Force to ring him back. He was with a group of 9 family and friends the night he saw the male in Portugal. He sounded quite shaken and worried whilst speaking to me.

Rec by: TPHONE Serial: 241 Ident:BC19-8286 1055 20/09/07
1101 8286-BC19 Incident linked to 209 26/06/07
1101 8286-BC19 Incident Result ODI: ADMIN DUPLICATE INCIDENT
QNG: QUALIFIER NOT REQUIRED
1101 8286-BC19 Incident Closed

Lindsay Long
Holmes Indexer
Major Crime
Braunstone Police Station

Processos Vol XI Page 2875

Policia Judiciaria

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10970 on: September 03, 2021, 11:18:54 PM »
Why have you linked to a forbidden blog?
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"Forbidden"??? Really - IMO claiming it's a fictional allusion to biblical stories is about as likely as CB or Tannerman being the real abductor!! But those theories aren't forbidden.

Offline Myster

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10971 on: September 04, 2021, 07:11:31 AM »
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10972 on: September 04, 2021, 07:17:04 AM »
Why have you linked to a forbidden blog?


"Forbidden"??? Really - IMO claiming it's a fictional allusion to biblical stories is about as likely as CB or Tannerman being the real abductor!! But those theories aren't forbidden.

“I don't think we need to consider other sites whose theories are so silly as to be laughable. In fact, mentioning them here is a breach of our rules and moderators should know better.” said Angelo, senior moderator of this forum.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10973 on: September 04, 2021, 08:13:18 AM »
“I don't think we need to consider other sites whose theories are so silly as to be laughable. In fact, mentioning them here is a breach of our rules and moderators should know better.” said Angelo, senior moderator of this forum.

Can you link to which sites are on the banned list?

I posted it, in answer to your question, to provide some light relief!! You've got to admit it's a brilliant article.... I love the numbers; How the Da Vinci code also starts with Robert the Translator (Murat); the author laughing at the blatant audacity of including Ivor Messiah in the tale (who it seems also made rude gestures to a juror in court); the donkey link; Samuel 2:11 (Kate's Bible pages and following verse) in which David watched the young Bathsheba as she bathed.  "David watched her bathe and he lusted after her"; that Gaspar (Caspar) was one of the three wise men; the witness named Fatima and the allusion to the story of Mary Magdalen (Madeleine) complete with reference to the emitting of bright lights (the girls' trainers)!!!

Of course I don't believe the whole Madeleine McCann story is a work of fiction written as a nod and a wink to those who know it's just alluding to a messianic / biblical tale !!

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10974 on: September 04, 2021, 04:16:51 PM »
Can you link to which sites are on the banned list?

I posted it, in answer to your question, to provide some light relief!! You've got to admit it's a brilliant article.... I love the numbers; How the Da Vinci code also starts with Robert the Translator (Murat); the author laughing at the blatant audacity of including Ivor Messiah in the tale (who it seems also made rude gestures to a juror in court); the donkey link; Samuel 2:11 (Kate's Bible pages and following verse) in which David watched the young Bathsheba as she bathed.  "David watched her bathe and he lusted after her"; that Gaspar (Caspar) was one of the three wise men; the witness named Fatima and the allusion to the story of Mary Magdalen (Madeleine) complete with reference to the emitting of bright lights (the girls' trainers)!!!

Of course I don't believe the whole Madeleine McCann story is a work of fiction written as a nod and a wink to those who know it's just alluding to a messianic / biblical tale !!
If you read back you will see that I recently ASKED Angelo the Mod for a list of banned cites, no answer was forthcoming.  Quelle surprise. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10975 on: September 04, 2021, 08:47:40 PM »
If you read back you will see that I recently ASKED Angelo the Mod for a list of banned cites, no answer was forthcoming.  Quelle surprise.

I regret posting it now!! It was only meant for some light relief!! Now some posters think there's been a troll invasion!! I had no intention of doing anything more than providing light relief from the usual incredibly sad situation we all discuss here.

Offline misty

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10976 on: September 04, 2021, 09:52:15 PM »
From: Long Lindsay
Sent: 20th September, 2007 11:37
CC: Hughes John (DC)
Re: Smith Family

Rec via: TELEPHONE Series: 241 Ident: BC19-8286-1055 20/09/07
Telephone: *********
Locale: Portugal/Out of country
Origin: Mr. Martin Smith 'Ireland

Text: Reported that he passed a male carrying a child in Praia da Luz the night Maddie went missing. Went and made a statement to Portugal police in Portimao on 26th of May and returned to the U.K. Is saying that after seeing McCANNS on the news on 9th of September when they returned to the U.K. He has not slept and is worried sick. He states he was watching the 10 pm news on BBC and saw the McCANNS getting off the plane and coming down the steps. He states it was like watching an action replay of the night he saw the male carrying the child back in Portugal. He states the way Gerry was carrying his twin triggered something in his head. It was exactly the same way and look of the other male seen the night Maddy went missing. He also watched ITV news and SKY news and inferred it looked like the same person both times carrying the children. Is asking a member of the OP Task Force to ring him back. He was with a group of 9 family and friends the night he saw the male in Portugal. He sounded quite shaken and worried whilst speaking to me.

Rec by: TPHONE Serial: 241 Ident:BC19-8286 1055 20/09/07
1101 8286-BC19 Incident linked to 209 26/06/07
1101 8286-BC19 Incident Result ODI: ADMIN DUPLICATE INCIDENT
QNG: QUALIFIER NOT REQUIRED
1101 8286-BC19 Incident Closed

Lindsay Long
Holmes Indexer
Major Crime
Braunstone Police Station

Processos Vol XI Page 2875

Policia Judiciaria

To believe Martin Smith's identification of Gerry (the only witness who formally stated that) requires acceptance of the following points:-
1. Gerry changed his clothes and no-one noticed
2. Madeleine wasn't wearing the same clothing as reported by the parents
3. Multiple other witnesses lied or were mistaken about Gerry's whereabouts at the time
4. Martin was right & the rest of his family were wrong

How much should the truth be bent to accommodate the revised statement of this sole witness, to remove a potential abductor from the equation and identify him as an existing arguido?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10977 on: September 04, 2021, 11:00:37 PM »
To believe Martin Smith's identification of Gerry (the only witness who formally stated that) requires acceptance of the following points:-
1. Gerry changed his clothes and no-one noticed
2. Madeleine wasn't wearing the same clothing as reported by the parents
3. Multiple other witnesses lied or were mistaken about Gerry's whereabouts at the time
4. Martin was right & the rest of his family were wrong

How much should the truth be bent to accommodate the revised statement of this sole witness, to remove a potential abductor from the equation and identify him as an existing arguido?

1) Who confirms exactly what Gerry was wearing?
2) Yes it's quite possible her parents lied about the pyjamas.
3) Yes it's quite possible the witnesses were mistaken about the exact time.
4) Yes it's quite possible Martin was right.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10978 on: September 04, 2021, 11:11:14 PM »
1) Who confirms exactly what Gerry was wearing?
2) Yes it's quite possible her parents lied about the pyjamas.
3) Yes it's quite possible the witnesses were mistaken about the exact time.
4) Yes it's quite possible Martin was right.
No it’s highly implausible and illogical for all these factors to in place (plus all the myriad others such as silent murder, body parading, brilliant acting, the conveniently emptied bin etc etc etc) in order for the McCanns to be the ones wot dunnit.  Ever heard of Occams Razor?  For the McCanns to be the culprits it would have to be the opposite which is known as “Smacco Rozar” or “a load of curly curly woo woo bollix” if you prefer.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10979 on: September 04, 2021, 11:12:38 PM »
No it’s highly implausible and illogical for all these factors to in place (plus all the myriad others such as silent murder, body parading, brilliant acting, the conveniently emptied bin etc etc etc) in order for the McCanns to be the ones wot dunnit.  Ever heard of Occams Razor?  For the McCanns to be the culprits it would have to be the opposite which is known as “Smacco Rozar” or “a load of curly curly woo woo bollix” if you prefer.

^^
None of this waffles disproves the possibility of McCann involvement.
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