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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #11115 on: September 22, 2021, 08:15:12 PM »
Men are more likely to enter into a situation where the outcome is murder. Women tend to be the victims as they are generally non combative.

I once read that victims are chosen. The idea was that some women are more likely to be easy to dominate and they give off some kind of signal. Maybe body language? I took to stomping around confidently if I was out late at night. @)(++(*
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« Reply #11116 on: September 22, 2021, 08:19:55 PM »
I know if I was a woman I would feel unsafe walking the streets at night, I'd definitely carry a rape alarm & I'd also be wary of the type of men I might socialise with & where.

But those are small sacrifices when being paid by the state to have children & getting cheaper car insurance.

It becomes a habit to think about safety because it's too late if you get it wrong. In theory women have the right to go where they want, wear what they want and get as drunk as they like. In the real world they need to take steps to keep themselves safe.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #11117 on: September 22, 2021, 08:43:25 PM »

We're never going to end male violence against women, it's impossible, unless we segregate all the men & women.

But then the women would probably end up being more violent towards each other, or I could be wrong & they might live in a lesbianic utopia.

Personally I'm thankful the number of women murdered a week in this country is only around 3 & that we don't live somewhere like South Africa where it's 7.

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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #11118 on: September 22, 2021, 09:05:00 PM »

And it should be noted that only 13% of female murder victims in 2020 were killed by strangers.

So generally I think we are a safe country, but of course it could always be safer.

It's domestic violence which is the greatest problem & there's some personal responsibility some women need to take there too.

The moment a man threatens or assaults a woman they should be getting the hell away from them but all too often women stay in abusive relationships for various different reasons & personally were I a woman that's something I simply wouldn't do.

As a man if I had a 'friend' who threatened or assaulted me, they would be cast out of my life immediately, I wouldn't be sticking around hoping it won't happen again.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #11119 on: September 22, 2021, 09:28:15 PM »
I once read that victims are chosen. The idea was that some women are more likely to be easy to dominate and they give off some kind of signal. Maybe body language? I took to stomping around confidently if I was out late at night. @)(++(*
Women are easier to dominate because generally they are not as physically strong as men, it’s nothing to do with giving off a signal.  Stomping around confidently at night does not protect you from being raped or murdered by someone who has decided they want to murder you.  In any case most female victims are not murdered by strangers on the streets at night.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #11120 on: September 22, 2021, 09:31:29 PM »
I must admit I prefer being a woman.
Have you ever lived life as a man?
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #11121 on: September 22, 2021, 09:39:08 PM »
Have you ever lived life as a man?

I did ponder that as well.
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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #11122 on: September 22, 2021, 09:47:25 PM »
Men are more likely to enter into a situation where the outcome is murder. Women tend to be the victims as they are generally non combative.

And you should be ashamed of yourself for even entering this discussion,  no matter who.

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #11123 on: September 22, 2021, 09:51:52 PM »
And you should be ashamed of yourself for even entering this discussion,  no matter who.

It seems like a sensible & reasoned discussion to me.

No one is disagreeing that violence against women is bad, but on balance, men have it worse in life in general.

I forgot to mention the suicide rate, men top themselves at 3 times the rate of women.
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #11124 on: September 22, 2021, 10:14:04 PM »
Have you ever lived life as a man?

No, I've just known, married, raised and observed them for 77 years.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #11125 on: September 22, 2021, 10:24:27 PM »
It seems like a sensible & reasoned discussion to me.

No one is disagreeing that violence against women is bad, but on balance, men have it worse in life in general.

I forgot to mention the suicide rate, men top themselves at 3 times the rate of women.
I don’t agree that men have it worse in life.  Men still control the world and earn the most money.  They are taken more seriously than women, are stronger, age better, remain fertile longer, don’t have blood gushing out of their privates on a monthly basis often with crippling side effects, don’t have to endure the agony of childbirth or the mind-numbing boredom of raising babies, can pee standing up and don’t have to queue for ages for the loo, suffer less depression and domestic violence than women, medicine, machinery, architecture, everything is created and designed around the typical male rather than the typical female, there are dozens more ways in which men have it better than women and still they hate and despise women and moan about how unfairly they are treated by women and society in general.  Men need to grow up and get a grip. 
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #11126 on: September 22, 2021, 10:30:47 PM »
And it should be noted that only 13% of female murder victims in 2020 were killed by strangers.

So generally I think we are a safe country, but of course it could always be safer.

It's domestic violence which is the greatest problem & there's some personal responsibility some women need to take there too.

The moment a man threatens or assaults a woman they should be getting the hell away from them but all too often women stay in abusive relationships for various different reasons & personally were I a woman that's something I simply wouldn't do.

As a man if I had a 'friend' who threatened or assaulted me, they would be cast out of my life immediately, I wouldn't be sticking around hoping it won't happen again.
A close family member finally plucked up the courage to leave her bully of a husband earlier this year.  This is a man who has boasted of killing people in Afghanistan and who keeps guns in the house.  He has never threatened her life before but has bullied her verbally and occasionally physically  but since she left him he has become quite unhinged and she is now even more fearful that he will attack her, or possibly injure of kill her.   His male pride has been injured and this has made him much more of a threat than ever before.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #11127 on: September 22, 2021, 10:33:12 PM »
No, I've just known, married, raised and observed them for 77 years.
And do you think these men would have preferred to have been women? 
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #11128 on: September 22, 2021, 10:38:39 PM »
I don’t agree that men have it worse in life.  Men still control the world and earn the most money.  They are taken more seriously than women, are stronger, age better, remain fertile longer, don’t have blood gushing out of their privates on a monthly basis often with crippling side effects, don’t have to endure the agony of childbirth or the mind-numbing boredom of raising babies, can pee standing up and don’t have to queue for ages for the loo, suffer less depression and domestic violence than women, medicine, machinery, architecture, everything is created and designed around the typical male rather than the typical female, there are dozens more ways in which men have it better than women and still they hate and despise women and moan about how unfairly they are treated by women and society in general.  Men need to grow up and get a grip.

It is illegal to pay a woman less than a man for the same job.

The gender wage gap is a myth, the disparity exists because men on the whole do more dangerous or demanding & better paid jobs than women who are more likely to be happy to sit on the till at Waitrose & take time off to be with their families, rather than working longer hours driving heavy goods vehicles around the country or keeping the electricity supply running.

Women report more depression, boo hoo, men obviously suffer more since they kill themselves at 3 times the rate.

Women get to sit down when they pee, which is more comfortable than standing imo.

I disagree that medicine or machinery & architecture are geared towards men.

How are the washing machine, ironing board, kitchen or paracetamol sexist?

Nope I'm sorry, when the number of troops killed in military service is equally split between men & women then get back to me.
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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #11129 on: September 22, 2021, 10:49:46 PM »

I will be deleting any more of this rubbish.