Wandering Off Topic

[Mr Gray]

Their abject failure to tackle inner city knife crime (and nearly half a million violent offences last year alone) is an indelible stain on them all.

Is it. Or is it a fact that the police do not receive enough support to tackle knife crime.. Stop and search would help but then people like you and gunit would complain about those carrying 12 inch combat knives having their civil liberties removed. I have a lot of respect for the police who do a very difficult job

[G-Unit]

Is it. Or is it a fact that the police do not receive enough support to tackle knife crime.. Stop and search would help but then people like you and gunit would complain about those carrying 12 inch combat knives having their civil liberties removed. I have a lot of respect for the police who do a very difficult job

You may think stop and search is the answer, but it needs to be done fairly and sensitively and combined with other initiatives.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/07/police-officer-stop-and-search-powers-public-trust

I also respect the police, but not the racist, homophobic and sexist ones. The Met needs to weed them out by making it clear that there's no place in a modern police force for such prejudices.

[barrier]

You may think stop and search is the answer, but it needs to be done fairly and sensitively and combined with other initiatives.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/07/police-officer-stop-and-search-powers-public-trust

I also respect the police, but not the racist, homophobic and sexist ones. The Met needs to weed them out by making it clear that there's no place in a modern police force for such prejudices.

When the home office appoints a commissioner who under their watch oversaw an innocent man going about his lawful business ends  up being shot 7 time in the head , then you know the MET not going to perform.

[jassi]

You may think stop and search is the answer, but it needs to be done fairly and sensitively and combined with other initiatives.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/07/police-officer-stop-and-search-powers-public-trust

I also respect the police, but not the racist, homophobic and sexist ones. The Met needs to weed them out by making it clear that there's no place in a modern police force for such prejudices.

I think Davel probably made that bit about combat knives up, but that aside what constitutes a lethal weapon?

You used to be able to buy aluminium combs, the last bit of which could be sharpened to a point and only a few weeks ago I bought a plastic comb, the last 4 inches of which is a steel spike - legitimately used for styling hair I understand.


Where do you draw the line on these things ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

I think Davel probably made that bit about combat knives up, but that aside what constitutes a lethal weapon?

You used to be able to buy aluminium combs, the last bit of which could be sharpened to a point and only a few weeks ago I bought a plastic comb, the last 4 inches of which is a steel spike - legitimately used for styling hair I understand.


Where do you draw the line on these things ?

Are you seriously suggesting that there haven't been numerous incidents involving lethal weapons such as 12" combat knives on the streets of Britain and that Davel just invented this?  Carrying knives about one's person should always be an imprisonable offence (with a few notable exemptions), carrying combs should not, IMO.

[The General]

Is it. Or is it a fact that the police do not receive enough support to tackle knife crime.. Stop and search would help but then people like you and gunit would complain about those carrying 12 inch combat knives having their civil liberties removed. I have a lot of respect for the police who do a very difficult job

Stop libelling me.

[Mr Gray]

You may think stop and search is the answer, but it needs to be done fairly and sensitively and combined with other initiatives.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/07/police-officer-stop-and-search-powers-public-trust

I also respect the police, but not the racist, homophobic and sexist ones. The Met needs to weed them out by making it clear that there's no place in a modern police force for such prejudices.

Its not me who thinks stop and search is the answer its the rank and file policeman who does. The knife carriers must be laughing at the restrictions placed on the police taht allows them to carry on with their criminal acts. 8 times as many black youths stoppped than whites. that may well be because in the araes where knife crime is a real problem most of the residents are black.......Im sure that is a fact. its this softly softly approach that is fuelling the problem. give the police the powers they want and need....or perhaps do what some of the community leaders want in these areas and remove the police from them..let them self police and see where that gets them.

AS far as police being racist etc...do you not realise thay only reflect the population as a whole..no more racist than any other similar socio economic group......theres racism on this board.

the fact is taht it is predominately black youngsters carrying knives ...but people are frightened to say so 

[Vertigo Swirl]

Its not me who thinks stop and search is the answer its the rank and file policeman who does. The knife carriers must be laughing at the restrictions placed on the police taht allows them to carry on with their criminal acts. * times as many black youths stoppped than whites. that may well be because in the araes where knife crime is a real problem most of the residents are black.......Im sure that is a fact. its this softly softly approach that is fuelling the problem. give the police the powers they want and need....or perhaps do what some of the community leaders want in these areas and remove the police from them..let them self police and see where that gets them.

AS far as police being racist etc...do you not realise thay only reflect the population as a whole..no more racist than any other similar socio economic group......theres racism on this board.

the fact is taht it is predominately black youngsters carrying knives ...but people are frightened to say so

I mY have dreamt it but I thought I saw something recently about police being able to detect concealed knives on a person at a distance with some sort of device…?  Equipping the police with them might make for a more targeted  stop and search policy.

[Wonderfulspam]

We should have the right to carry firearms from age 9 or something, so the kids can defend themselves from knife attacks.

[jassi]

Certainly if we all carried guns, knife crime would become a thing of the past.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Certainly if we all carried guns, knife crime would become a thing of the past.

And if Russia nukes London, we don’t need to worry about who will replace Cressida Dick.

[barrier]

And if Russia nukes London, we don’t need to worry about who will replace Cressida Dick.

Should never have got rid of the cruise missiles, get the retaliation in first and nuke moscow.

[The General]

Its not me who thinks stop and search is the answer its the rank and file policeman who does. The knife carriers must be laughing at the restrictions placed on the police taht allows them to carry on with their criminal acts. 8 times as many black youths stoppped than whites. that may well be because in the araes where knife crime is a real problem most of the residents are black.......Im sure that is a fact. its this softly softly approach that is fuelling the problem. give the police the powers they want and need....or perhaps do what some of the community leaders want in these areas and remove the police from them..let them self police and see where that gets them.

AS far as police being racist etc...do you not realise thay only reflect the population as a whole..no more racist than any other similar socio economic group......theres racism on this board.

the fact is taht it is predominately black youngsters carrying knives ...but people are frightened to say so

That last sentence isn't true. It is in London and Birmingham, but not nationally.
Stop and search v racial profiling. Playing the odds?

[The General]

Should never have got rid of the cruise missiles, get the retaliation in first and nuke moscow.

Everyone chill. If it was going to happen it would have been in October 1962.
Put the kettle on, this will all be chip wrappings next week.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Should never have got rid of the cruise missiles, get the retaliation in first and nuke moscow.

How do you get retaliation in first?  That don’t make no sense.