Wandering Off Topic

[Vertigo Swirl]

I remember those; hide under the table lol!

That’s where I am at the moment.

[Brietta]

“In Belarus, everything is ready to host Russia-Ukraine negotiations. Waiting for delegations to arrive,” Belarus Ministry of Foreign Affairs has announced this morning.
https://thepavlovictoday.com/this-is-the-venue-of-todays-russia-ukraine-negotiations/

Let us hope that sanity prevails today and there is a little less sabre rattling from all including those who wish to shut down news stations as they edge ever Eastward.

[Brietta]

That’s where I am at the moment.

Metaphorically speaking that's where I've been for the past wee while.

[Vertigo Swirl]

“In Belarus, everything is ready to host Russia-Ukraine negotiations. Waiting for delegations to arrive,” Belarus Ministry of Foreign Affairs has announced this morning.
https://thepavlovictoday.com/this-is-the-venue-of-todays-russia-ukraine-negotiations/

Let us hope that sanity prevails today and there is a little less sabre rattling from all including those who wish to shut down news stations as they edge ever Eastward.

I read today that these talks are just a Putin sham to give him some breathing space and a PR exercise.  I am not overly optimistic.  Is also read the most frightening article on the BBC website entitled “Would Putin Use Nuclear Weapons?” and the answer seems quite uniquivocal - don’t read if you don’t want to know the answer…

[faithlilly]

“In Belarus, everything is ready to host Russia-Ukraine negotiations. Waiting for delegations to arrive,” Belarus Ministry of Foreign Affairs has announced this morning.
https://thepavlovictoday.com/this-is-the-venue-of-todays-russia-ukraine-negotiations/

Let us hope that sanity prevails today and there is a little less sabre rattling from all including those who wish to shut down news stations as they edge ever Eastward.

Indeed.

[Brietta]

I read today that these talks are just a Putin sham to give him some breathing space and a PR exercise.  I am not overly optimistic.  Is also read the most frightening article on the BBC website entitled “Would Putin Use Nuclear Weapons?” and the answer seems quite uniquivocal - don’t read if you don’t want to know the answer…

Putin isn't in Biden's back yard but by proxy that's where I think Biden is in his.  I must admit to being massively underwhelmed by the results of recent US foreign policy and don't relish the thought of any more interference.

[G-Unit]

That’s where I am at the moment.

There used to be nuclear bunkers around the country for the 'important' people to go to, but I don't know if they're still operational.

[Vertigo Swirl]

There used to be nuclear bunkers around the country for the 'important' people to go to, but I don't know if they're still operational.

I'm sure Boris has the keys to his, clutched in his pudgy little fist as we speak.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Putin isn't in Biden's back yard but by proxy that's where I think Biden is in his.  I must admit to being massively underwhelmed by the results of recent US foreign policy and don't relish the thought of any more interference.

I don't think for the last 20+ years the West has fully understood just how paranoid and dangerous Putin was and is, and that is why we are where we are today.  The more things look bad for Putin just now the more scared I get.

[Brietta]

I don't think for the last 20+ years the West has fully understood just how paranoid and dangerous Putin was and is, and that is why we are where we are today.  The more things look bad for Putin just now the more scared I get.

While on the Long March out of Poland in 1945 my father said that Germans told the guys that in a few years they would be back to fight side by side with them against the common enemy of Russia.

So it has been a long time coming and I don't think that is all Putin's fault, VS.

[barrier]

There used to be nuclear bunkers around the country for the 'important' people to go to, but I don't know if they're still operational.

I know of one where the ROC used to meet, don't know what its like now though.

[Vertigo Swirl]

While on the Long March out of Poland in 1945 my father said that Germans told the guys that in a few years they would be back to fight side by side with them against the common enemy of Russia.

So it has been a long time coming and I don't think that is all Putin's fault, VS.

Only inasmuch as the West should have been a little less naive and trusting that they were dealing with a rational person, IMO. 

[barrier]

I don't think for the last 20+ years the West has fully understood just how paranoid and dangerous Putin was and is, and that is why we are where we are today.  The more things look bad for Putin just now the more scared I get.

There one would hope of a sequence where more than one guy can order a strike, he needs to made aware  he won't be around to see the destruction .

[barrier]

I agree, even one nuclear bomb going off in this country and life for us all is effectively not worth living.  I hope it’s not going to happen but Putin is a mad rat, and when rats are cornered they are at their most dangerous.

Not often we agree .

[Vertigo Swirl]

There one would hope of a sequence where more than one guy can order a strike, he needs to made aware  he won't be around to see the destruction .

If you think of Putin as the ultimate suicide bomber it's not difficult to see him issuing the order.  He has also stated before that without Russia there is no point to the rest of the world, and he clearly believes the West wants to destroy Russia.  The only hope we have is that his generals are not of a similar mindset and are prepared to defy him but people like Putin don't keep power for 22+ years without being surrounded by extremely loyal, like-minded support.