Wandering Off Topic

[Vertigo Swirl]

No child, black, white or any hue between should be strip searched and their bodily orifices examined, certainly not unless there is a medical emergency and only then always with parental of guardian consent and in their presence.  That’s my view and I would thank those on here seeking to exploit this unfortunate episode to score points against people on this forum they don’t like to remember that.

[Mr Gray]

It would appear so.Take the racist element out of it and it’s still an appalling way for the police to treat a child.

No wonder the Met conducts itself with such impunity if they public that they are meant to search are accepting of this kind of behaviour against a mere child.

Still only one side of the story heard

[barrier]

Still only one side of the story heard

Not according to the investigation by Gamble.


5.22 In Child Q’s circumstances, whilst two people were present, they were both
police officers. In the account of one of these officers seen by the review, they
comment that Child Q ‘indicated’ that she didn’t mind one of the teachers acting
as an Appropriate Adult but was uncomfortable about them being in the room.
The officer further states that this teacher (and another) ‘seemed’ happy to be
outside whilst the search was undertaken. ‘Indicated’ and ‘Seemed’ do not
suggest a thorough process whereby specific clarification was being sought
about how Child Q’s best interests would be protected.

[Mr Gray]

Not according to the investigation by Gamble.


5.22 In Child Q’s circumstances, whilst two people were present, they were both
police officers. In the account of one of these officers seen by the review, they
comment that Child Q ‘indicated’ that she didn’t mind one of the teachers acting
as an Appropriate Adult but was uncomfortable about them being in the room.
The officer further states that this teacher (and another) ‘seemed’ happy to be
outside whilst the search was undertaken. ‘Indicated’ and ‘Seemed’ do not
suggest a thorough process whereby specific clarification was being sought
about how Child Q’s best interests would be protected.

Where is the account from the two police officers

[barrier]

Where is the account from the two police officers

The clue is is these words "In the account of one of these officers seen by the review" the fact they haven't shared them publicly with you is something you'll have to take up with those concerned.

[Mr Gray]

I would like to know why the officers felt a strip search was necessary... Have the officers been disciplined.. If not why not.

[Mr Gray]

The clue is is these words "In the account of one of these officers seen by the review" the fact they haven't shared them publicly with you is something you'll have to take up with those concerned.

The words.. In the account of the police officers... Indicates they gave a full account which we have not seen... Why... We have only heard one side of the story9

[faithlilly]

The words.. In the account of the police officers... Indicates they gave a full account which we have not seen... Why... We have only heard one side of the story9

There is no dispute that a child was strip searched in a degrading manner. That is agreed by all parties. There is no justification for such abhorrent treatment of a minor.

It does seem to me though that those not wholeheartedly condemning such treatment of a child are motivated by a dislike of those who are condemning it rather than by the treatment itself.

[Mr Gray]

There is no dispute that a child was strip searched in a degrading manner. That is agreed by all parties. There is no justification for such abhorrent treatment of a minor.

It does seem to me though that those not wholeheartedly condemning such treatment of a child are motivated by a dislike of those who are condemning it rather than by the treatment itself.

I'm fairly sure we are not getting the full facts

[Vertigo Swirl]

There is no dispute that a child was strip searched in a degrading manner. That is agreed by all parties. There is no justification for such abhorrent treatment of a minor.

It does seem to me though that those not wholeheartedly condemning such treatment of a child are motivated by a dislike of those who are condemning it rather than by the treatment itself.

It seems to me the only reason we are discussing this at all is because it's been raised here to poke in the eye those who support the Met's investigation into Madeleine McCann. 

[faithlilly]

I'm fairly sure we are not getting the full facts

So what facts would make this child’s treatment in any way right?

[Mr Gray]

So what facts would make this child’s treatment in any way right?

I wouldn't say right... But understandable in the, eyes of the two officers. Again... Why have the officers not been disciplined

[faithlilly]

I wouldn't say right... But understandable in the, eyes of the two officers. Again... Why have the officers not been disciplined

You really do need to check your moral compass.

[Mr Gray]

You really do need to check your moral compass.

I don't.... You need to understand the importance of gathering all the facts before reaching conclusions... You obviously dont

[The General]

I'm fairly sure we are not getting the full facts

You're right, for a change. There's more to come about a couple of people involved apparently.
*cough racists *cough