Wandering Off Topic

[faithlilly]

I don't.... You need to understand the importance of gathering all the facts before reaching conclusions... You obviously dont

Jim Gamble seems to have done that for us. Do you doubt his judgment?

[Mr Gray]

Jim Gamble seems to have done that for us. Do you doubt his judgment?

I agree with his report in that it was wrong.. No doubt about it... Im interested in why it happened... It may well be not as black and white as you thinkp

[Vertigo Swirl]

You really do need to check your moral compass.

This from a woman who has spent years of her life smearing and bitching about the family of a missing child online.  Your hypocrisy is rank.  IMO. 

[faithlilly]

I agree with his report in that it was wrong.. No doubt about it... Im interested in why it happened... It may well be not as black and white as you thinkp

Oh I think it was.

Only the really rather stupid would not now be acquainted with the facts but crack on.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Oh I think it was.

Only the really rather stupid would not now be acquainted with the facts but crack on.

Blimey where's your scepticism?!  Lapping up official reports from Jim Gamble without batting so much as an eye.  What do you make of his views on the McCann case then? 

[barrier]

Once again the MET come out smelling like shite, this is the rabble that has spent circa £13 million supposedly looking for Madeleine, whilst there's nothing to say officers involved with OG are any of the things mentioned they do belong to that organisation.

Met Police 'fundamentally flawed' when tackling corruption in its ranks: Damning report blasts 'arrogant, secretive and lethargic' force for hiring staff with criminal records, 2,000 missing warrant cards and failure to properly vet officers

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10639517/Met-Police-fundamentally-flawed-tackling-corruption-ranks.html

[Vertigo Swirl]

Once again the MET come out smelling like shite, this is the rabble that has spent circa £13 million supposedly looking for Madeleine, whilst there's nothing to say officers involved with OG are any of the things mentioned they do belong to that organisation.

Met Police 'fundamentally flawed' when tackling corruption in its ranks: Damning report blasts 'arrogant, secretive and lethargic' force for hiring staff with criminal records, 2,000 missing warrant cards and failure to properly vet officers

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10639517/Met-Police-fundamentally-flawed-tackling-corruption-ranks.html

DEFUND THE POLICE!!!

[barrier]

DEFUND THE POLICE!!!

Theres a case for the MET to be defunded it could be argued, fit for purpose ? hard pressed to defend them, but no doubt apologist on here will.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Theres a case for the MET to be defunded it could be argued, fit for purpose ? hard pressed to defend them, but no doubt apologist on here will.

In fact the opposite should happen IMO.  More investment, more coppers on the beat, better training and higher standards of recruitment at all levels, less form-filling, more policing, greater powers but with greater assessment and accountability.  I don’t know how you achieve all that but there needs to be a radical overhaul if the Met really is as rotten as these reports suggest.

[John]

I have decided to do a full moderator review given recent events and as it is badly overdue.

Anyone wishing to provide an input to this process please message me.

[faithlilly]

Hands up who today wishes Labour had won the 2019 general election and renationalised the energy industry as promised?

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/may/15/corbyn-to-reveal-labour-plans-to-nationalise-uks-energy-network

[Wonderfulspam]

Hands up who today wishes Labour had won the 2019 general election and renationalised the energy industry as promised?

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/may/15/corbyn-to-reveal-labour-plans-to-nationalise-uks-energy-network

I wonder what his Russia/Ukraine stance would have been?

Would he have been arming & funding the Ukranians to provoke the sh*t out of Russia, or might he have taken a more cautious & neutral stance.

I didn't vote for anyone in the last general by the way, probably the first time I haven't voted, I was away at the time of the election, otherwise I'd have voted BNP or Britain First or something.

[Wonderfulspam]

He did indeed warn of Tory connections to Russian oligarchs IIRC.

[sadie]

He did indeed warn of Tory connections to Russian oligarchs IIRC.

And then, of course, there is Peter Mandelson.

[Eleanor]

Blimmin 'ell.  I don't know.  Fortunately I no longer have to care.