Wandering Off Topic

[Eleanor]

VS bought up child abuse by westerners in Thailand, I simply added the subject that she raised into the wider point about decline in western living standards, economy, capitalism & greed, as I've already unnecessarily explained, because you seem to be the only one here who didn't get it.

Of course, if you genuinely are concerned about child sex exploitation & the like, no amount of bleating about it on here is going to help, you need to actually put your hand in your pocket & donate to a charity that attempts to tackle the problem, but I suspect you'd be more into just virtue signalling really.

Not that I'm willing to spare a penny to help kids either to be fair, I'm just not about to pretend I give a damn about them for internet brownie points.

Dear Spammy,  I am feeling very kind tonight and I don't believe that you are actually an horrible person.  Although you did throw me for a minute.

But it is always easy to over react.

I don't understand why you say what you do when in fact you are far from uneducated or stupid and I don't understand why you want to shock the likes of me.  Do you think that I am more clever than you?  That would be a very silly mistake.  Although always to my benefit. 

First regard your adversary.  And don't ever believe that they are better than you.  Just don't talk shit to beat them.  This is very boring.  And you can do better than that.

However, perhaps you think that the loss of Madeleine is a bit of a joke, although I somewhat doubt that.

My thoughts on the matter are irrelevant and only mine own.  This is why we are all here.  Or at least I think so.  Although I suppose that I could be wrong about that.

Unfortunately or not, you have a habit of giving away the fact that that you are perfectly able on other subjects.  Actually quite remarkable  to read and of some pleasure to me, even if I don't necessarily agree.


Could you just cut the awful crap on this one?

[Eleanor]

VS bought up child abuse by westerners in Thailand, I simply added the subject that she raised into the wider point about decline in western living standards, economy, capitalism & greed, as I've already unnecessarily explained, because you seem to be the only one here who didn't get it.

Of course, if you genuinely are concerned about child sex exploitation & the like, no amount of bleating about it on here is going to help, you need to actually put your hand in your pocket & donate to a charity that attempts to tackle the problem, but I suspect you'd be more into just virtue signalling really.

Not that I'm willing to spare a penny to help kids either to be fair, I'm just not about to pretend I give a damn about them for internet brownie points.

VS and I both lived in Singapore with all attending Amahs.  Servants as such.  I always paid my Amah over the odds.  She was my life's blood.  My one and only opportunity to escape my ghastly children.

She loved my baby better than I did.  VS will understand that.
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As it was I spent my time running a Nursery School for the ghastly children of other people.  And what fun they all were.  No, really.  They were fun.  Most things are as you see them.

[G-Unit]

Please do not patronise me.  Your interpretation of what people are, what they do and and what motivates  them is your opinion, and an overly simplistic one at that.  And yes, that is my opinion, though probably if I were you I would claim it was the truth.

They are not my opinions, they are the opinions of people like Adam Smith and Milton Friedman, both much admired by Margaret Thatcher

[Vertigo Swirl]

They are not my opinions, they are the opinions of people like Adam Smith and Milton Friedman, both much admired by Margaret Thatcher

So now you’re admitting to passing off other people’s opinions as your own and insisting they’re facts.   Thanks for confirming what I said in the first place.

[G-Unit]

So now you’re admitting to passing off other people’s opinions as your own and insisting they’re facts.   Thanks for confirming what I said in the first place.

If you could ignore your need to always attack me you might learn something. I studied politics and quickly realised that to understand the subject it was necessary to understand economics and the relationship between the two.

[Vertigo Swirl]

If you could ignore your need to always attack me you might learn something. I studied politics and quickly realised that to understand the subject it was necessary to understand economics and the relationship between the two.

Oh wow, being educated by one so learned as yourself, once again I am simply thrilled once  by your patronage.  What exactly do you think you are teaching me that I don’t already know?

But wait -  I’m not here for lectures from you thanks, I was pointing out that a lack of empathy in politics can lead to the situation we find ourselves in today - a cost of living crisis in which many millions will struggle to make ends meet.  You don’t appear to have a problem with this so there’s nothing more to say is there?

[Wonderfulspam]

Oh wow, being educated by one so learned as yourself, once again I am simply thrilled once  by your patronage.  What exactly do you think you are teaching me that I don’t already know?

But wait -  I’m not here for lectures from you thanks, I was pointing out that a lack of empathy in politics can lead to the situation we find ourselves in today - a cost of living crisis in which many millions will struggle to make ends meet.  You don’t appear to have a problem with this so there’s nothing more to say is there?

So wholesale gas prices don't come into it?

The energy cap has increased, due to lack of empathy?

If you say so.

[G-Unit]

Oh wow, being educated by one so learned as yourself, once again I am simply thrilled once  by your patronage.  What exactly do you think you are teaching me that I don’t already know?

But wait -  I’m not here for lectures from you thanks, I was pointing out that a lack of empathy in politics can lead to the situation we find ourselves in today - a cost of living crisis in which many millions will struggle to make ends meet.  You don’t appear to have a problem with this so there’s nothing more to say is there?

I have been accused recently of not understanding 'normal' people (which is rubbish by the way). Why would politicions understand and empathise with the poor? Norman Tebbit clearly didn't, expecting people to cycle off to find work after the government of which he was a part had destroyed their previous jobs. A few politicians appeared on TV living on benefits for a week, which they found difficult, but I don't think that helped them to understand the long-term effects of living on benefits.

Despite that, measures to help the poorest have been put in place with the rebate being given on Council Tax bands A-D. So they are using some of the millions they collect in taxes from the oil and gas companies to ease the impact on the poor. The government has to balance the interests of everyone, however, and that includes the interests of businesses which are having to charge higher prices.

So the empathy of politicians can't be reserved purely for consumers.

[G-Unit]

So wholesale gas prices don't come into it?

The energy cap has increased, due to lack of empathy?

If you say so.

I think the Beatles were wrong when they said "All you need is love". Abba were closer; "Money, money, money"

[Wonderfulspam]

I have been accused recently of not understanding 'normal' people (which is rubbish by the way). Why would politicions understand and empathise with the poor? Norman Tebbit clearly didn't, expecting people to cycle off to find work after the government of which he was a part had destroyed their previous jobs. A few politicians appeared on TV living on benefits for a week, which they found difficult, but I don't think that helped them to understand the long-term effects of living on benefits.

Despite that, measures to help the poorest have been put in place with the rebate being given on Council Tax bands A-D. So they are using some of the millions they collect in taxes from the oil and gas companies to ease the impact on the poor. The government has to balance the interests of everyone, however, and that includes the interests of businesses which are having to charge higher prices.

So the empathy of politicians can't be reserved purely for consumers.

It can, if you want businesses to shut up shop & relocate to countries with more favourable taxation.

I mean, it might cause a minor ripple in the jobs market, but the people won't mind because they'll be paying less out of the monthly pay check, which they wouldn't be receiving.

[Wonderfulspam]

I think the Beatles were wrong when they said "All you need is love". Abba were closer; "Money, money, money"

A friend of mine was shocked the other day that the price of her dog food had risen by 50p.

I explained that inflation is approaching record levels, oil prices are high & will effect the price of everything & that European countries have excessive levels of debt, there's likely going to be recession, possibly a collapse the likes hasn't been seen in years, the biggest cost of living crisis in living memory & that the true value of our money is falling.

She said "they can always print more money".

I gave up trying to explain anything after that.

[barrier]

My daughter has a solar powered charger.

We've solar powered lights in the garden, not worth a chocolate tea pot in the winter.

[jassi]

I have been accused recently of not understanding 'normal' people (which is rubbish by the way). Why would politicions understand and empathise with the poor? Norman Tebbit clearly didn't, expecting people to cycle off to find work after the government of which he was a part had destroyed their previous jobs. A few politicians appeared on TV living on benefits for a week, which they found difficult, but I don't think that helped them to understand the long-term effects of living on benefits.

Despite that, measures to help the poorest have been put in place with the rebate being given on Council Tax bands A-D. So they are using some of the millions they collect in taxes from the oil and gas companies to ease the impact on the poor. The government has to balance the interests of everyone, however, and that includes the interests of businesses which are having to charge higher prices.

So the empathy of politicians can't be reserved purely for consumers.

Without consumers the UK economy will collapse as that's what it's based on.

However, consumers have a limited amount of disposable income and if it has to be spent on essential such as fuel and food, it won't be available for less essential things.

It's inevitable that purveyors of such products are going to suffer and maybe go out of business.

[barrier]

A friend of mine was shocked the other day that the price of her dog food had risen by 50p.

I explained that inflation is approaching record levels, oil prices are high & will effect the price of everything & that European countries have excessive levels of debt, there's likely going to be recession, possibly a collapse the likes hasn't been seen in years, the biggest cost of living crisis in living memory & that the true value of our money is falling.

She said "they can always print more money".

I gave up trying to explain anything after that.

To be fair thats what happened after 2008, we're paying the price now of course, but it makes the world go round, actually it doesn't in reality.

[Wonderfulspam]

To be fair thats what happened after 2008, we're paying the price now of course, but it makes the world go round, actually it doesn't in reality.

This is what people don't get.

We didn't recover from that crash because we printed our way out of it.

The governments did what they could to protect businesses & consumers, by kicking the can down the road.