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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #11880 on: April 05, 2022, 07:19:21 PM »
I agree with some of his points.
So do I, his opinion of Putin and the invasion of Ukraine for example.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

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« Reply #11881 on: April 05, 2022, 07:25:44 PM »
I agree with some of his points.

Yes, I think the questions are quite valid, but one can be sure that they will never be officially asked and a curtain of  obscurity over the whole affair will prevail.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #11882 on: April 05, 2022, 08:07:43 PM »
Yes, I think the questions are quite valid, but one can be sure that they will never be officially asked and a curtain of  obscurity over the whole affair will prevail.
There’s some pretty valid questions he neglected to ask his reader to consider as well.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #11883 on: April 05, 2022, 08:14:05 PM »
Is it REALLY valid to ask if Madeleine was still alive on 3rd May?  Really??!
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #11884 on: April 05, 2022, 08:44:33 PM »
Is it REALLY valid to ask if Madeleine was still alive on 3rd May?  Really??!

There are, imo, valid questions in the article;

why did the British Government, diplomats and certain other influential individuals immediately give unprecedented support to the parents of this particular missing child?

Why such a limited remit when suspicions hovered over Madeleine’s parents and while there was very little credible evidence that Madeleine had been abducted? (Operation Grange)

Why have the British news media – especially the ‘red-tops’, but also some of the ‘quality broadsheets’ – become so biased and sycophantic in their reporting by always referring to Madeleine’s “abduction” without  adding a word such as “alleged” or “suspected”, and without questioning other possibilities?

why has the British press long been castigating the Portuguese police and implying that the peaceful resort of Praia da Luz was a den of iniquity, an insult that the local residents emphatically deny?

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #11885 on: April 05, 2022, 09:22:45 PM »
There are, imo, valid questions in the article;

why did the British Government, diplomats and certain other influential individuals immediately give unprecedented support to the parents of this particular missing child?

Why such a limited remit when suspicions hovered over Madeleine’s parents and while there was very little credible evidence that Madeleine had been abducted? (Operation Grange)

Why have the British news media – especially the ‘red-tops’, but also some of the ‘quality broadsheets’ – become so biased and sycophantic in their reporting by always referring to Madeleine’s “abduction” without  adding a word such as “alleged” or “suspected”, and without questioning other possibilities?

why has the British press long been castigating the Portuguese police and implying that the peaceful resort of Praia da Luz was a den of iniquity, an insult that the local residents emphatically deny?
What is stopping Len Port alleged highly successful journalist from seeking the answers to his  supposedly valid questions?
« Last Edit: April 05, 2022, 09:30:51 PM by Swertigo Virl »
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #11886 on: April 05, 2022, 09:53:53 PM »
What is stopping Len Port alleged highly successful journalist from seeking the answers to his  supposedly valid questions?

How?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #11887 on: April 05, 2022, 10:09:37 PM »
How?
By doing what he was presumably trained to do. Does he not have contacts within the MSM?  Surely one of them can tell him (off the record if necessary) why the media has been muzzled, silenced, forced to cover up for and suck up to the McCanns?  Likewise the Met.  Find a whistleblower prepared to dish the dirt on OpGrange.  It’s what journalists worth their salt do isn’t it? uncover corruption in high places.  Don’t you understand that a free media is there to hold the High Ups to account?  Surely the McCanns are not more important than sleazy MPs and Royals, corrupt sex pest policemen etc that the media expose and write about?
« Last Edit: April 05, 2022, 10:21:15 PM by Swertigo Virl »
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #11888 on: April 06, 2022, 07:15:16 AM »
There is for example a new Netflix documentary film coming out which explores the close friendship between Prince Charles  and depraved paedophile Jimmy Savile focusing on 20 years of correspondence between the two.  If the Establishment has been powerless to prevent that expose why do people think the McCanns are more important to protect and cover up for than our future king?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

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« Reply #11889 on: April 06, 2022, 07:59:28 AM »
Portugal Newswatch
Reflections on current affairs in Portugal by journalist and author Len Port.

Sunday, March 27, 2022
Madeleine inquiry in the UK - questions still needing answers
https://algarvenewswatch.blogspot.com/2022/03/madeleine-inquiry-in-uk-questions-still.html

Quite extraordinary that there were and still are individuals mired in groundhog day conspiracy theories.

I don't think there ever was a case to be made for them.  But in this day and age and being aware of the investigative path now being followed this fringe mentality still being promoted is I think beyond malice and verging on the insane.

Madeleine McCann is not a conspiracy theory.

Madeleine is a victim of crime and the only conspiracy involving her emanates from those in denial of that fact.

Madeleine is a real person with a real family who have moved heaven and earth to find their little girl and who are waiting for the truth about her disappearance.
I cannot comprehend the blindness which allows the slur industry to ply their wares in the face of that knowledge.

The pretence from conspiracy theorists such as Port that there ever was an idyllically safe child friendly or safe for females of any age Portugal has been well and truly dismissed by the reality.

The truth is that the false news of 2007 has been exposed;  check that out with Sandra Felgueiras.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Lace

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #11890 on: April 06, 2022, 09:09:22 AM »
Portugal Newswatch
Reflections on current affairs in Portugal by journalist and author Len Port.

Sunday, March 27, 2022
Madeleine inquiry in the UK - questions still needing answers
https://algarvenewswatch.blogspot.com/2022/03/madeleine-inquiry-in-uk-questions-still.html


The UK charity Missing People says that 140,000 people go missing in Britain every year. That’s 383 a day. Two thirds of the cases examined by the charity are under 18 years-of-age. So why did the British Government, diplomats and certain other influential individuals immediately give unprecedented support to the parents of this particular missing child? That’s the first of many fundamental questions that need answering.


So the British Government, diplomats and certain other influential individuals immediately give unprecedented support to the parents did they?

Is that why Gerry and Kate had to beg the Portuguese Police to tell them what was going on?   They were left not knowing how the case was unfolding.

Is that why they were made Arguidos?

Please give it a rest.


Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #11891 on: April 06, 2022, 09:20:35 AM »

The UK charity Missing People says that 140,000 people go missing in Britain every year. That’s 383 a day. Two thirds of the cases examined by the charity are under 18 years-of-age. So why did the British Government, diplomats and certain other influential individuals immediately give unprecedented support to the parents of this particular missing child? That’s the first of many fundamental questions that need answering.


So the British Government, diplomats and certain other influential individuals immediately give unprecedented support to the parents did they?

Is that why Gerry and Kate had to beg the Portuguese Police to tell them what was going on?   They were left not knowing how the case was unfolding.

Is that why they were made Arguidos?

Please give it a rest.
Of the 383 children that go missing each day how many are under 5 who have not been taken by an estranged parent?   How many of those 383 children who go missing every day are not found within 48 hours?

ETA: 90% of missing children are found within 48 hours of disappearance.  So if we're going to start quoting statistics let's add some relevant ones such as around 40 children go missing every day for longer than 48 hours.  what percentage of those 40 children will be under 5, not removed by an estranged parent?
« Last Edit: April 06, 2022, 09:23:43 AM by Swertigo Virl »
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #11892 on: April 06, 2022, 09:30:27 AM »
There were 975 child abductions in the UK in 20/21
https://www.statista.com/statistics/303536/child-abduction-in-england-and-wales-uk/
 - a far more common occurrence it would seem than children being killed by their parents (1 a week according to this)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/one-child-in-britain-is-killed-like-baby-peter-every-week-1740220.html
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #11893 on: April 06, 2022, 09:32:41 AM »
Is anyone seriously suggesting that the disappearance on Madeleine McCann was so commonplace, so unremarkable that it is a mystery why representatives of the child's birth country would get involved in assisting the family?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #11894 on: April 06, 2022, 09:46:24 AM »
How many children die from falls each year in the UK?
10
https://www.rospa.com/home-safety/advice/accidents-to-children#falls
The statistics don't tell us how many actually died instantly at home as a result of their fall but it's likely to be a low %
The statistics therefore demonstrate that a child is far more likely to be abducted than die in a fall.

Isn't it amazing what you can do with statistics?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".