Wandering Off Topic

[barrier]

And if you look back you have no conception of what happened in the beginning because you obviously weren't interested.

Why did you suddenly become involved?

In the beginning a little girl disappeared with out a trace, still the same today, all that as gone on in between is noise.

[Eleanor]

In the beginning a little girl disappeared with out a trace, still the same today, all that as gone on in between is noise.

How very inconsiderate.

[barrier]

How very inconsiderate.

If you mean to the family (supporters) yep, Madeleine who ?

[Eleanor]

If you mean to the family (supporters) yep, Madeleine who ?

Madeleine McCann.

[Wonderfulspam]

Dogs die.  Sometimes sooner than we would like them to.  My latest little shite could find a corpse if there was one.  That's the thing you see.  There was No Corpse.  And nor were the means for The McCanns to dispose of such.

The big problem here is that most of you weren't around in the beginning and so you make it up as you go along.

I have no real idea of why you do this other than for some inherent nastiness.

How very sad is that?

Who have I been nasty to?

[Brietta]

If you mean to the family (supporters) yep, Madeleine who ?

Madeleine McCann is not a figure of scorn.
Without realising it though, I think your post has managed to sum up the essence and characterisation which typifies those of the particular mindset to which members have referred.

Not a pretty thing to witness.  But well done you! for highlighting it's existence.

[G-Unit]

And if you look back you have no conception of what happened in the beginning because you obviously weren't interested.

Why did you suddenly become involved?

The advantage of being interested 'in the beginning' being?

[Brietta]

If you look back you'll find that it was you who dredged up past libels. I simply pointed out that they were alleged libels, which triggered the usual responses.

Very interesting the way you interpret discussion ~ in fact ~ fascinating.

For the record
I responded to your 'poor Kate and Gerry' post at  https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7060.msg680531#msg680531

[John]

Nevertheless only a court ruling can declare a case proved. Express Newspapers were never found guilty of libel - they chose to declare themselves guilty.

Good point, I've always wondered why they were so quick to fill the McCann coffers when even the Portuguese Supreme Court is on record stating that the McCanns have NOT been cleared.

In fact, as it stands, Madeleine's fate is still undetermined. Who killed her is still an unknown quantity.

[Mr Gray]

Good point, I've always wondered why they were so quick to fill the McCann coffers when even the Portuguese Supreme Court is on record stating that the McCanns have NOT been cleared.

In fact, as it stands, Madeleine's fate is still undetermined. Who killed her is still an unknown quantity.

Same as the Cipriano case. A guilty verdict is just a court verdict and we know courts get things wrong. In truth Joannas fate has not been determined beyond all doubt.
In the McCann case it seems the investigators are convinced Maddie was abducted.. The parents have been ruled out of the investigation.. I know you don't like that but it's a fact.
Even if CB was found guilty we don't know yet if that would determine Maddies fate. As ive said often courts work on what's most likely.

The SC said the McCanns were not ruled out by the archiving dispatch... Not that they haven't been cleared subsequently.
In fact even that is a moot point.. Has Ben Needhams family been ruled out.. No they haven't but they are no longer suspects.

If CB is not charged.. Can we say he hasn't been ruled out. Its a very unjust thing to say but you and others keep repeating it.

The fact is the McCanns are not suspects and all the evidence used to make them arguidos was not confirmed.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Good point, I've always wondered why they were so quick to fill the McCann coffers when even the Portuguese Supreme Court is on record stating that the McCanns have NOT been cleared.

In fact, as it stands, Madeleine's fate is still undetermined. Who killed her is still an unknown quantity.

So CB wouldn’t have a leg to stand on then, if he tried to take the papers to court…?

[Eleanor]

Who have I been nasty to?

You don't really know how.

[Ms Para glider]

Good point, I've always wondered why they were so quick to fill the McCann coffers when even the Portuguese Supreme Court is on record stating that the McCanns have NOT been cleared.

In fact, as it stands, Madeleine's fate is still undetermined. Who killed her is still an unknown quantity.

It's not really a "good" point is it, it's a technicality. In the vast majority of cases, lawyers settle on a pay out because they know there's a high chance they'll lose if they tried to fight it. The fact they issued a public apology too is an admission of wrongdoing. Not all claims settled in this way result in an admission of guilt as well as the payout.

I have to say, I find the comment about being "so quick to fill the McCann coffers" rather peculiar. So too the comment that continues "In fact"..."Madeleine’s fate is still undetermined" and "who killed her is still an unknown quantity". The context of the comment (which began with agreeing with G-Unit) feels like it is aimed at supporters. Yet I haven't seen any supporter stating anything along the lines of Madeleine’s fate HAS been determined, or that who killed her IS a known quantity. The only people I see here who are totally resolute in what happened are those who are adamant the parents covered up Madeleine’s death. JMO.

[Eleanor]

The advantage of being interested 'in the beginning' being?

Something to do with what was actually going on while Amaral was up to no good for his own agrandisment

What a shite he was.

[Eleanor]

Good point, I've always wondered why they were so quick to fill the McCann coffers when even the Portuguese Supreme Court is on record stating that the McCanns have NOT been cleared.

In fact, as it stands, Madeleine's fate is still undetermined. Who killed her is still an unknown quantity.

All good stuff of course.  But who on earth do you think you are.?

John has stated that Madeleine is dead.  So she must be dead.

John hasn't yet stated by whose hand, but no doubt he knows.

Could he possibly enlighten us all?