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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #12015 on: April 09, 2022, 10:12:28 AM »
I know of at least one forum where bile and hatred is still expressed. It's members refer to another forum as a 'cesspit', and to people who's views are different to theirs as cowards, fools, [ censored word ]s, liars and trolls. They don't realise that such attacks say far more about those launching them than those they target. I look at it ocasionally because it amuses me and to see what crazy things they might be saying about me.
That's a teensy bit narcissistic isn't it?  I guess there's only one thing worse than being talked about and that's not being talked about....

Abuse between anonymous forum users and platforms is par for the course, it's what we've all signed up for (yes even those of us who pretend to be diligent serious researchers).  Where the abuse is a lot less edifying is when it is targeted at identifiable "real" people whose home address is readily shared by those abusers, whose trips on trains and to restaurants is recorded and shared online with imprecations to verbally and physically abuse said individuals.  That's REAL nasty stuff and I have seen plenty of that from "sceptics", not so much from "supporters". 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #12016 on: April 09, 2022, 10:34:56 AM »
I know of at least one forum where bile and hatred is still expressed. It's members refer to another forum as a 'cesspit', and to people who's views are different to theirs as cowards, fools, [ censored word ]s, liars and trolls. They don't realise that such attacks say far more about those launching them than those they target. I look at it ocasionally because it amuses me and to see what crazy things they might be saying about me.

Are you referring to CMOMM or the twitter group. that regularly attack this forum

Offline faithlilly

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« Reply #12017 on: April 09, 2022, 10:36:33 AM »
I know of at least one forum where bile and hatred is still expressed. It's members refer to another forum as a 'cesspit', and to people who's views are different to theirs as cowards, fools, [ censored word ]s, liars and trolls. They don't realise that such attacks say far more about those launching them than those they target. I look at it ocasionally because it amuses me and to see what crazy things they might be saying about me.

I still find it incredibly sinister the lengths that some supporters will go to to ‘punish’ no-believers. Employers being contacted, names being shared with the media and addresses revealed to name but a few manoeuvres employed. Why? What do they really think it will achieve?
« Last Edit: April 09, 2022, 10:41:24 AM by faithlilly »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #12018 on: April 09, 2022, 10:50:58 AM »
I first encountered online fury and hatred on the McCann subforum of the Mirror forum.  It was June 2007.  I couldn't believe what I was reading and my first post expressed my incredulity at the viciousness on display.  I'd never posted on any sort of forum until that day so was not au fait with any of the pejorative terms oft bandied about.  The very first reply to my very first post was simply one word: "troll".   I had no idea what that meant but I soon found out I was in a minority on that forum and was about as welcome as a pork pie at a Vegan convention.   The rest is history.... @)(++(*

Likewise.
My first ever post was when the British investigation was opened in 2013 to express my hope for success in finding Madeleine. 

In doing that it would be no exaggeration to say that I called the hounds of hell down upon my head.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #12019 on: April 09, 2022, 10:52:48 AM »
I still find it incredibly sinister the lengths that some supporters will go to to ‘punish’ no-believers. Employers being contacted, names being shared with the media and addresses revealed to name but a few manoeuvres employed. Why? What do they really think it will achieve?
As if this is something that only supporters have done, don't be such a raving hypocrite as you will know only too well the trend started on 3 Arguidos, if not the Mirror forum with several so-called supporters being outed and their place of work contacted in an attempt to get them into trouble with their employer.  Your onetime online pal Synonymph was one of the worst and scariest offenders - I don't know how she did it but she was some sort of tech-head who was able to track people down via their online activity and intimidate them in real life.  She is (was) a sexual fetishist and self-confessed kinky dominatrix.  So please don't make out "your" side were the victims, they were very much worse as there was so many of them, and their tactics were disgraceful.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #12020 on: April 09, 2022, 10:57:08 AM »
I still find it incredibly sinister the lengths that some supporters will go to to ‘punish’ no-believers. Employers being contacted, names being shared with the media and addresses revealed to name but a few manoeuvres employed. Why? What do they really think it will achieve?

There was a dossier of 'offenders' too, wasn't there? I think the point was to scare people away, and it worked on some.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #12021 on: April 09, 2022, 10:58:00 AM »
I still find it incredibly sinister the lengths that some supporters will go to to ‘punish’ no-believers. Employers being contacted, names being shared with the media and addresses revealed to name but a few manoeuvres employed. Why? What do they really think it will achieve?

Steven tried to do that to me.. Remember.. But you deny it when it's a sceptic.. Hypocrite or what

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #12022 on: April 09, 2022, 10:59:12 AM »
There was a dossier of 'offenders' too, wasn't there? I think the point was to scare people away, and it worked on some.

I didn't see you criticise posters doing this to me on Stephens forum.. Hypocrite or what

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #12023 on: April 09, 2022, 11:15:05 AM »
Hypocrisy is a defining characteristic of many sceptics I find, as is a tendency to propagandise and re-write history to cast themselves as the victims.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2022, 11:17:52 AM by Swertigo Virl »
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #12024 on: April 09, 2022, 11:21:06 AM »
Just an example of something which is no longer on the internet. Airbrushed out by either him or those who shared his venomous no holds barred attacks on those who didn't share his views about the case.

Do you know what.

YOU ARE RIGHT.  There are definitely  - venomous no holds barred attacks on those who don't share a particular view being airbrushed out by those whose intention is that only their view will prevail.

I have just tried to access particular sites one to which V8 contributed for example, to find that the link used by me to do so now takes me direct to a hideho fabrication.

Please tell me exactly how you knew that the internet is being sanitised of sites alien to the particular views you hold.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #12025 on: April 09, 2022, 11:32:26 AM »
I know of at least one forum where bile and hatred is still expressed. It's members refer to another forum as a 'cesspit', and to people who's views are different to theirs as cowards, fools, [ censored word ]s, liars and trolls. They don't realise that such attacks say far more about those launching them than those they target. I look at it ocasionally because it amuses me and to see what crazy things they might be saying about me.

Remember how you all used to have a great laugh at Sadie for posting her observations about information vanishing from the internet and subtle alterations being made to that which was allowed to remain ... well guess what! you can start laughing at me now.

It will be interesting to do the death watch on the forum to which you refer ... I think it may very well be the last man standing so I imagine it won't be too long now.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #12026 on: April 09, 2022, 11:33:57 AM »
Do you know what.

YOU ARE RIGHT.  There are definitely  - venomous no holds barred attacks on those who don't share a particular view being airbrushed out by those whose intention is that only their view will prevail.

I have just tried to access particular sites one to which V8 contributed for example, to find that the link used by me to do so now takes me direct to a hideho fabrication.

Please tell me exactly how you knew that the internet is being sanitised of sites alien to the particular views you hold.

I quoted the only example I'm aware of and have no knowledge of anything else. What was the link?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #12027 on: April 09, 2022, 11:40:08 AM »
I quoted the only example I'm aware of and have no knowledge of anything else. What was the link?

Do you think it affects anyone here that V8 was exposed as a paedophile. It doesn't reflect on anyone else.. Only himself

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #12028 on: April 09, 2022, 11:52:59 AM »
I quoted the only example I'm aware of and have no knowledge of anything else. What was the link?

There are occasions when denial is a positive short term reaction.

Prolonged denial is however far more likely to produce extremely harmful results.

Why do want me to give you a link which no longer works ~ what is the point of that since you must already know it as you state your rather specialised knowledge of v8's vanished posts.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #12029 on: April 09, 2022, 12:58:39 PM »
There are occasions when denial is a positive short term reaction.

Prolonged denial is however far more likely to produce extremely harmful results.

Why do want me to give you a link which no longer works ~ what is the point of that since you must already know it as you state your rather specialised knowledge of v8's vanished posts.

I read his objectionable opinions on a site owned by him which disappeared. I also read his posts on a forum, but they all disappeared too. I just wondered if your link was to either of them, that's all.
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