Wandering Off Topic

[The General]

Newsflash: supporters of a couple who routinely left 3 nursery age children alone in an unlocked apartment while they went out boozing, are also supporters of child abuse by negligence.

[G-Unit]

I think it’s more likely that you’d be terribly unlucky for something bad to happen.  Thinking of my own children when they were tiny, apart from when they were young babies or on the few occasions when they were sick in the night, they would sleep right through, never got up, never cried out.  We never had a fire, we were never burgled in the night, no sudden sink holes appeared, I never had an occasion to pick them off the floor where they’d fallen out of bed or off a sofa, or pull their fingers out of a plug socket, or rush them to A & E after drinking bleach and just one occasion when I had to retrieve a purple fuzzy felt dinosaur from the mouth of my young son (though that was during the day anyway and he had not been put to bed but was playing in his room).

 I’m not saying “it’s fine to leave sleeping kids alone” because bad things like those I have described above could happen, but the likelihood is small.  It would still be incredible bad luck if a terrible thing did happen imo, but the way some people go on about it you’d think leaving sleeping children alone for 30 minutes at a time was akin to dropping them off asleep on the hard shoulder of the M1, an almost dead cert that they would have a life changing accident or worse.

It's not about what they did, it's about the denial that what they did was wrong.

[Mr Gray]

It's not about what they did, it's about the denial that what they did was wrong.

Same old.. Same old.. And untrue

[Mr Gray]

Newsflash: supporters of a couple who routinely left 3 nursery age children alone in an unlocked apartment while they went out boozing, are also supporters of child abuse by negligence.

More sceptic junk

[Vertigo Swirl]

It's not about what they did, it's about the denial that what they did was wrong.

No, it’s definitely about what they did.   

[Vertigo Swirl]

More sceptic junk

Actually I wholeheartedly endorse child negligence as my post made clear (but only if you’re a hard-of-thinking moron, or sanctimonious troll intent on deliberately misunderstanding what I wrote).

[Brietta]

It's not about what they did, it's about the denial that what they did was wrong.

That post is a total misrepresentation of the truth. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

Given that I have owned up to some incidents of so-called “child neglect and abuse” (leaving my son asleep but unattended when fetching his daughter from school, dining in the hotel lobby leaving sleeping kids upstairs), do readers consider my kids incredibly lucky to have made it into their adulthood?  Were the odds firmly stacked against them?  Should they have been taken into care when they were young children? 

[Mr Gray]

The McCanns will have been professionally counselled in order to deal with the trauma of their ordeal. They will have been told not to blame themselves.. But we know that they do

[Wonderfulspam]

Speaking of negligence, there don't seem to have been any updates on the woman who b....red off to Sainsburys & left her kids burning to death.

That was back around Christmas, the last I remember reading was that she was bailed until January.

I don't quite understand why it's taking so long, it's an open & shut case, just chuck her in the slammer already.

[Brietta]

I think you were just lucky Sadie. Leaving young children alone in a hotel room or in a holiday apartment is just asking for trouble imo.

There is a Sin of Omission.

There is also a Sin of Commission.

I have never understood why in this case the sin committed inadvertently has been adopted as the benchmark for all blame.

While the sin carried out with deliberate malice for the innocent is forgotten and does not merit any opprobrium or blame at all.

[Eleanor]

Please don't try to deprive them of their last ditch screech.  This would be cruel.  And a waste of time anyway. 

When all else fails.....

[Vertigo Swirl]

I’m guessing most sceptics are utterly outraged by this programme and have already sent numerous letters of complaint to social services et al…

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/apr/07/old-enough-the-japanese-tv-show-that-abandons-toddlers-on-public-transport

[Vertigo Swirl]

Just remembered another time we left the kids asleep to go to the neighbours who lived in the house attached to ours.  This pre-dates Madeleine’s disappearance and I did take the child monitor but it didn’t work so like the McCanns I went back two or three times that evening to check.  Of course they were both fast asleep and unaware of our absence during the evening, amazing they survived the night now I look back on it…

[Eleanor]

Just remembered another time we left the kids asleep to go to the neighbours who lived in the house attached to ours.  This pre-dates Madeleine’s disappearance and I did take the child monitor but it didn’t work so like the McCanns I went back two or three times that evening to check.  Of course they were both fast asleep and unaware of our absence during the evening, amazing they survived the night now I look back on it…

I'm surprised my children survived at all, after what they got up to.  Most of which I didn't know about until much later.