Wandering Off Topic

[Vertigo Swirl]

Ah see, you’re presuming again. It’s not on my ‘research’ but on others, much more knowledgeable than me in the way of these things. People like barristers, psychologists, police officers and, in the case of Luke Mitchell, the FBI’s world renowned Behavioural Analysis Unit.

Does ‘convicted’ always mean guilty and, if there is doubt that that a conviction is unsafe, shouldn’t that conviction be corrected?

Why do you care so much what I ‘think’….if indeed I do?

Says the person who just now asked me why I care!  LOL.. I don't give a shit what you think, I am merely pointing out your hypocrisy and inability to think logically.  You started by jumping in with an accusation that I had a morbid fascination with "these sorts of people" but offered no evidence to support your claims.  I was merely pointing out your own morbid fascination with Luke Mitchell, a fascination to which you are perfectly entitled (it takes all sorts) but don't claim the moral high ground over me because that's just plain hypocritical. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

You really are rather easy to trigger, aren’t you?

Ah, and so we get to the nub of the matter.  You enjoy "triggering" me.  You know that there's a word for people like that don't you...? 

[Eleanor]

Parents make mistakes….that’s a given but what singles the parents and their friends out is that this wasn’t a mistake…this was a calculated risk, and a risk with no mitigation. The parents not only left the patio doors unlocked on an apartment which bordered a main road but also failed, if they are to be believed, to check if the windows or front door was also locked. That was not a mistake but a calculated risk.

Okay.  I took calculated risks.  But I did think about what I was doing.  And my children didn't half have some fun.

You have to give them some autonomy.  This doesn't stop at a holiday appartment in some second rate Portuguese holiday resort.

As it is, I would never have taken my children to Praia da Luz.  But then I knew a bit more about Portugal by 2007.  And their misbegotten Police Services.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Oh look we're talking about the McCanns "neglect".  Again.  Some people will never get over it.  It's as if it was the single most pivotal moment in events of the 21st Century to date.

[Eleanor]

Unfortunately some would like to see it return and, in the case of Luke Mitchell, that would have meant a state execution of a 16 year old.

Who was the Supposed Accomplice who was hanged while the 16 year old Perpetrator  was only sent to prison?  Craig someone?

So that one won't wash.

The Death Penalty will never return.  Ever.

[G-Unit]

Based on known facts at the time since The PJ weren't even investigating known Crimes in the area.

I have never denied that I sometimes left my children alone under similar circumstances.

What really pees me off is the sanctimonious clap trap from supposedly Perfect Parents.  There is no such thing as a Perfect Parent.  Everyone fails in some way.  No Parent gets born with a Master's Degree.  Some of the mistakes are hidden in the eons of time.  Mostly emotional, of course.

But if all you managed to teach your children that no one is perfect then you might have achieved something.

As I said, it's not what they did, it's how they tried to defend what they did. For your information I made sure that admitted my imperfections to my children. Like everyone I did my best, but if I realised at times that I was wrong I told them so and apologised.

[Mr Gray]

As I said, it's not what they did, it's how they tried to defend what they did. For your information I made sure that admitted my imperfections to my children. Like everyone I did my best, but if I realised at times that I was wrong I told them so and apologised.

yawn

[Eleanor]

Oh look we're talking about the McCanns "neglect".  Again.  Some people will never get over it.  It's as if it was the single most pivotal moment in events of the 21st Century to date.

I shall continue to beat myself half to death for allowing my children to have some fun.

But this is the bad bit.  My grandchildren were never afforded the same freedom for fear that they might get up to all sorts.  Do as I say.  Don't do as I did.

All history now.  Grandmother is a raving lunatic who fortunately bogged off to France.

[Eleanor]

As I said, it's not what they did, it's how they tried to defend what they did. For your information I made sure that admitted my imperfections to my children. Like everyone I did my best, but if I realised at times that I was wrong I told them so and apologised.

Goodness me.  I have never admitted to to my children for being wrong.  What would you like me to say?  Sorry that I allowed you to have some fun?  Sorry that I didn't lock you up?  Sorry that I allowed you all to choose?

The one thing I never did was to suggest that they were incapable of deciding for them selves given a bit of common sense.

[Vertigo Swirl]

As I said, it's not what they did, it's how they tried to defend what they did. For your information I made sure that admitted my imperfections to my children. Like everyone I did my best, but if I realised at times that I was wrong I told them so and apologised.

Did you use the national media to apologise to your children?  If not why do you expect the McCanns to have done so?

[Vertigo Swirl]

yawn

I agree, the sanctimony is quite tiresome. 

[G-Unit]

Goodness me.  I have never admitted to to my children for being wrong.  What would you like me to say?  Sorry that I allowed you to have some fun?  Sorry that I didn't lock you up?  Sorry that I allowed you all to choose?

The one thing I never did was to suggest that they were incapable of deciding for them selves given a bit of common sense.

I hope that worked. My way did, I think. I'm still there for my kids and they're there for me.

[Eleanor]

I hope that worked. My way did, I think. I'm still there for my kids and they're there for me.

You think.  But you were only married to The Military.  I was Part of The Navy.  And if you couldn't think for yourself then you didn't have much chance.  Perhaps this was what taught me to teach my children to think for themselves.

[Vertigo Swirl]

My mother recently apologised to me for all the times she left me unattended (but I don't think she really meant it).  It was nice of her to take a full page ad out in all the leading British newspapers to do so though, perhaps the McCanns should take a leaf out of her book so that everyone knows of their own contrition.

[Eleanor]

My mother recently apologised to me for all the times she left me unattended (but I don't think she really meant it).  It was nice of her to take a full page ad out in all the leading British newspapers to do so though, perhaps the McCanns should take a leaf out of her book so that everyone knows of their own contrition.

Your Mother should have blamed the Amah.  Although I doubt that the Amah ever left you alone.  Mine never did.