Wandering Off Topic

[Mr Gray]

How arrogant. Especially from a man who clearly demonstrated his lack of understanding of the mobile phone 'evidence'.

I think your post is pure sour grapes because the BKA see the mccanns are innocent.. Pathetic,

[Brietta]

It's probably worth remembering too that the police had no evidence against Brueckner in 2007, unless anyone knows any different, but, maybe the PJ should have had the foresight to realise Brueckner would be confessing to Busching in 2008, & then keeping it to himself for a further 9 years.

If SY & Wolters had been involved from the beginning they'd have prevented Maddie from being abducted in the first place, that's how good they are.

It is probably worth remembering too that the police had no evidence against the McCanns in 2007.  It did not stop them looking for some though, did it.

I wonder what they might have turned up against Brueckner had he been afforded the same diligence the McCanns were subjected to if only they had looked.
Guess what a good starting point might vey well have been ~ phone pings.

[G-Unit]

The mobile phone 'pings' are of no use at all, imo. It's not been confirmed that it was CB's phone and the location of the phone can't be pinpointed. Nothing can be deduced from the reregistration of CB's Jaguar either.

[misty]

The mobile phone 'pings' are of no use at all, imo. It's not been confirmed that it was CB's phone and the location of the phone can't be pinpointed. Nothing can be deduced from the reregistration of CB's Jaguar either.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-26851632
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"German police reportedly found a photograph of the woman lying in Brueckner’s campervan, during their investigation into a rape for which the 44-year-old is now serving a seven-year jail sentence in Germany"

On which device was that photo taken/found? Would you concede that BKA, by revealing this information, are directly linking the German witness to a specific device (a phone) used by CB around the time of Madeleine's disappearance and which may also contain image(s) of Madeleine?

[G-Unit]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-26851632
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"German police reportedly found a photograph of the woman lying in Brueckner’s campervan, during their investigation into a rape for which the 44-year-old is now serving a seven-year jail sentence in Germany"

On which device was that photo taken/found? Would you concede that BKA, by revealing this information, are directly linking the German witness to a specific device (a phone) used by CB around the time of Madeleine's disappearance and which may also contain image(s) of Madeleine?

There have been various claims in the press, but are they true? The article you quote also says;

"According to police data, Brueckner’s mobile phone was in the village when it received a call."

That statement is misleading, as the phone hasn't been identified as Brueckner's and it wasn't definitely 'in the village'

[Vertigo Swirl]

There have been various claims in the press, but are they true? The article you quote also says;

"According to police data, Brueckner’s mobile phone was in the village when it received a call."

That statement is misleading, as the phone hasn't been identified as Brueckner's and it wasn't definitely 'in the village'

According to HCW the phone has been identified as that used by Brückner at the time so why are you saying otherwise?

[Myster]

According to HCW the phone has been identified as that used by Brückner at the time so why are you saying otherwise?

I wonder if the BKA have found Brueckner's fingerprints all over it and no-one else's?

[Wonderfulspam]

I wonder if the BKA have found Brueckner's fingerprints all over it and no-one else's?

...and there are photos of Maddie stored on it, with a digital footprint showing the photos were taken during the same week as that picture of the girlfriend

But, Wolters can't let Brueckner know he's found these photos, or he could change his story, that'll be why he's let it be known via mass media that he found Brueckner's phone with the photos on it.

Yeah, this still isn't making much sense, so, maybe there just aren't any photos of Maddie.

[G-Unit]

I wonder if the BKA have found Brueckner's fingerprints all over it and no-one else's?

As far as I know the Germans were told the mobile phone number was Brueckners. According to MWT only one person sais that, others gave him another name for the phone owner. I've seen nothing suggesting they had hold of the phone itself.

[Vertigo Swirl]

As far as I know the Germans were told the mobile phone number was Brueckners. According to MWT only one person sais that, others gave him another name for the phone owner. I've seen nothing suggesting they had hold of the phone itself.

So you have chosen to believe MWT but to disbelieve HCW, if I’m reading you right…?

[Wonderfulspam]

So you have chosen to believe MWT but to disbelieve HCW, if I’m reading you right…?

We have 'evidence' the phone was used by someone else, MWT interviewed a witness who stated as much during the documentary.

....and that is a darn sight more evidence than Wolters has ever shown, of anything, but, I think we should ignore the evidence & just take Wolters word for it, plus, ignore the totally illogical idea that Brueckner wouldn't already know Wolters has found the paedo photos.

I suppose if we do that, we can continue to believe he's solved it.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Given that MWT is an independent researcher and investigstor and clearly not controlled by the High Ups, how do sceptics explain his complete failure to arrive at the conclusion wrt to Madeleine’s parents  that is so blatantly obvious to themselves?

[Wonderfulspam]

Given that MWT is an independent researcher and investigstor and clearly not controlled by the High Ups, how do sceptics explain his complete failure to arrive at the conclusion wrt to Madeleine’s parents  that is so blatantly obvious to themselves?

MWT doesn't believe the window was open, he believes in woke & wandered.

So, to his mind, the McCanns must be mistaken about the window then, &, if the window wasn't open, then Maddie wasn't abducted, they themselves have stated there is no way she could have left the apartment on her own.

But guess what, due to libel laws, MWT is unable to say what he genuinely believes.

Get it?

[Wonderfulspam]

No, what  MWT genuinely believes is that Maddie just wandered out, & by a terrible, tragic coincidence, a passing paedophile struck the jackpot that night.

Ok, I'll give you that, he did believe Pistorious, if you believe him about that, & that he wasn't just saying whatever to pay his mortgage.

[G-Unit]

So you have chosen to believe MWT but to disbelieve HCW, if I’m reading you right…?

You need to remember that Wolters appealed about the phone call because he needed to trace the caller in order to ASK THEM WHO THEY SPOKE TO. Therefore Wolters et al weren't absolutely sure who was answering that phone on 3rd May 2007.