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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #13125 on: June 14, 2022, 11:20:01 AM »
It's means exactly what it says  CB cannot be placed in Luz on the night of 3/05/2007, so what are the odds he wasn't  involved in an alleged abduction.
I don't know why don't you have a go at calculating them?  So CB cannot be definitively proven to have been in Luz that night.  So does that mean Madeleine was not abducted?  Is that a logical conclusion iyo?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #13126 on: June 14, 2022, 11:22:10 AM »
Don't expect a straight answer to that one!

How about the total absence of any credible, tangible, reliable or verifiable abduction evidence.

That do?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #13127 on: June 14, 2022, 11:23:00 AM »
So you believe that Grange looked into other scenarios? Do you have any evidence that they did? I don't.
Yes.  They reviewed the PJ's case files in their entirety which (in case you have forgotten) were in  large part focussed on the parents.  How do you suppose they reviewed the case files without considering the possibility that the parents might have done it?  Or do you think that they privately believed the parents should be further investigated but were threatened or coerced or otherwise ordered into "looking the other way" by the High Ups?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #13128 on: June 14, 2022, 11:33:38 AM »
Yes.  They reviewed the PJ's case files in their entirety which (in case you have forgotten) were in  large part focussed on the parents.  How do you suppose they reviewed the case files without considering the possibility that the parents might have done it?  Or do you think that they privately believed the parents should be further investigated but were threatened or coerced or otherwise ordered into "looking the other way" by the High Ups?

She asked for evidence, not speculation.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #13129 on: June 14, 2022, 11:34:52 AM »
Yes patience,  Wolters said a while back these other crimes would be dealt with first.

Did you hear that from Jon Clarke?
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #13130 on: June 14, 2022, 11:37:10 AM »
so does that mean Madeleine was not abducted?

Oh right, must be a different abductor out there somewhere then, while Wolters chases after the wrong guy.

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Offline Lace

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« Reply #13131 on: June 14, 2022, 11:45:00 AM »
Another reading of the evidence is that there was no kidnapping, but he wasn't tasked with investigating that.

OG went right back to the beginning  what proof is there that they didn't investigate the McCann's?    I don't believe they didn't go over everything.   They didn't need to interview the McCann's that had already been done,  they saw the statements,  they poured over the evidence and came to their conclusion.   They are experts unlike you and I.

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #13132 on: June 14, 2022, 11:47:30 AM »
OG went right back to the beginning  what proof is there that they didn't investigate the McCann's?    I don't believe they didn't go over everything.   They didn't need to interview the McCann's that had already been done,  they saw the statements,  they poured over the evidence and came to their conclusion.   They are experts unlike you and I.

The twice translated unreliable statements, you mean?
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Offline Lace

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« Reply #13133 on: June 14, 2022, 11:48:12 AM »
Some have the absolutely ridiculous belief that the McCann's were being protected by the 'establishment'.  What utter BS they were treated like any other  member of the public in Portugal.   Didn't stop them being made arguido's did it?

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #13134 on: June 14, 2022, 12:26:37 PM »
Yes.  They reviewed the PJ's case files in their entirety which (in case you have forgotten) were in  large part focussed on the parents.  How do you suppose they reviewed the case files without considering the possibility that the parents might have done it?  Or do you think that they privately believed the parents should be further investigated but were threatened or coerced or otherwise ordered into "looking the other way" by the High Ups?

When was their remit written?
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #13135 on: June 14, 2022, 12:30:34 PM »
OG went right back to the beginning  what proof is there that they didn't investigate the McCann's?    I don't believe they didn't go over everything.   They didn't need to interview the McCann's that had already been done,  they saw the statements,  they poured over the evidence and came to their conclusion.   They are experts unlike you and I.

Quite. You 'believe' that they investigated the evidence against the McCanns and dismissed it, because you 'believe' that they are experts. You don't know that's what they did.
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Offline barrier

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« Reply #13136 on: June 14, 2022, 12:53:39 PM »
I don't know why don't you have a go at calculating them?  So CB cannot be definitively proven to have been in Luz that night.  So does that mean Madeleine was not abducted?  Is that a logical conclusion iyo?

My opinion is that Wolters says  CB cannot be placed in Luz on the night of 3/05/2007 , so logically he can't be the one who supposedly half inched Madeleine out of 5a . Now if you know of any one else in the frame I'm sure the reader would like to know who it is . Further more Wolters also says there is no forensics into the girls death, with which Wolters agrees with me that person/s unknown took Madeleine out of 5a without leaving a trace to her whereabouts .
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #13137 on: June 14, 2022, 01:15:19 PM »
My opinion is that Wolters says  CB cannot be placed in Luz on the night of 3/05/2007 , so logically he can't be the one who supposedly half inched Madeleine out of 5a . Now if you know of any one else in the frame I'm sure the reader would like to know who it is . Further more Wolters also says there is no forensics into the girls death, with which Wolters agrees with me that person/s unknown took Madeleine out of 5a without leaving a trace to her whereabouts .

The other unknown abductor accomplice snatched Maddie, gave her to Brueckner so he could photograph & murder her.
Brueckner's diary entries for that week detail everything, just wait & see.
Shouldn't be much longer now.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #13138 on: June 14, 2022, 01:34:34 PM »
When was their remit written?
You don’t ask questions unless you already know the answer so why don’t you tell me.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #13139 on: June 14, 2022, 01:35:35 PM »
My opinion is that Wolters says  CB cannot be placed in Luz on the night of 3/05/2007 , so logically he can't be the one who supposedly half inched Madeleine out of 5a . Now if you know of any one else in the frame I'm sure the reader would like to know who it is . Further more Wolters also says there is no forensics into the girls death, with which Wolters agrees with me that person/s unknown took Madeleine out of 5a without leaving a trace to her whereabouts .
Your logic is fk’ed, scuse my French.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".