Wandering Off Topic

[John]

I'd love to know what the Neanderthals were doing to cause the end of the last ice age.

Actually that was down to the ice buildup in the northern hemisphere and consequently a weight imbalance which caused the planet to change its tilt.

[Eleanor]

Unfortunately the state of the Earth can't be judged by looking at your little corner of it. The country you live in has more licenced hunters than any other EU country. They kill 17 million birds each year. Around 200,000 larks are shot every year in France alone. Millions of song thrushes, redwing, fieldfare and blackbirds are also shot down. That's humans having their 'nice times' for you.

In that case, why are you judging it?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Unfortunately the state of the Earth can't be judged by looking at your little corner of it. The country you live in has more licenced hunters than any other EU country. They kill 17 million birds each year. Around 200,000 larks are shot every year in France alone. Millions of song thrushes, redwing, fieldfare and blackbirds are also shot down. That's humans having their 'nice times' for you.

Do you eat chicken?

[barrier]

Actually that was down to the ice buildup in the northern hemisphere and consequently a weight imbalance which caused the planet to change its tilt.

Thats what gave us the four seasons, good job too, Vivaldi would have been stuck.

[G-Unit]

It was you who claimed humans are no more important than animals, which suggests to me that you put equal value on the lives of all animals as you do on human lives (and I bet you enjoy a good Sunday Roast!)

In the context of the survival of the planet we share, other species are often more valuable than humans; bees for example.

[Wonderfulspam]

Lake Mead, the Hoover dam, 1983-2021





Drought-Stricken Lake Mead Less Than 150 Feet From "Dead Pool"

The surface of Lake Mead, North America's largest artificial reservoir, now stands at 1044 feet above sea level and is dropping fast. If Lake Mead's water level falls another 149 feet, a dangerous level known as a "dead pool" could wreak havoc across Southwestern US.

Since the beginning of March, Lake Mead has dropped about 23 feet, and compared with the 5-year trend, the reservoir's water levels are well below average, at the lowest point since the lake was filled nearly a century ago.

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https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/lake-mead-less-150-feet-dead-pool

[G-Unit]

Do you eat chicken?

That's what we raise them for. I don't have any desire to eat ortolan buntings, though, which don't exist to feed me.

[Eleanor]

That's what we raise them for. I don't have any desire to eat ortolan buntings, though, which don't exist to feed me.

Do you get your Chicken from France?  Most people do these days.

[Vertigo Swirl]

That's what we raise them for. I don't have any desire to eat ortolan buntings, though, which don't exist to feed me.

So chickens only exist for your benefit?  How selfish is that?!  Chickens are by and large raised in the most squalid and cruel conditions worldwide and are slaughtered in their billions to keep people like you in chicken nuggets and all you can bleat on about is a few hundred thousand freebirds being shot down by hunters each year?  What a hypocrite.

[Vertigo Swirl]

In the context of the survival of the planet we share, other species are often more valuable than humans; bees for example.

So if you would put the value of a bee above that of the value of a human why would you not make crimes against bees such as murder, accidental death (aka beeslaughter), false imprisonment etc against the law?

[barrier]

So if you would put the value of a bee above that of the value of a human why would you not make crimes against bees such as murder, accidental death (aka beeslaughter), false imprisonment etc against the law?

It is against the law to steal bee's(hives) , but if a swarm should land on your property then that swarm is yours not from whence they came.

A swarm in May is worth a load of hay, a swarm in June is worth a silver spoon.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It is against the law to steal bee's(hives) , but if a swarm should land on your property then that swarm is yours not from whence they came.

A swarm in May is worth a load of hay, a swarm in June is worth a silver spoon.

that's a crime against another person - the crime of theft, it's not a crime against bees.

[barrier]

that's a crime against another person - the crime of theft, it's not a crime against bees.

Stick your hand in a hive and see if they agree.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Stick your hand in a hive and see if they agree.

silly

[G-Unit]

So chickens only exist for your benefit?  How selfish is that?!  Chickens are by and large raised in the most squalid and cruel conditions worldwide and are slaughtered in their billions to keep people like you in chicken nuggets and all you can bleat on about is a few hundred thousand freebirds being shot down by hunters each year?  What a hypocrite.

Raising animals for food means we don't have to slaughter wild animals. Chickens are not in danger of extinction, songbirds are. Illegally hunting songbirds until they're close to extinction like the ortolan bunting is not sensible or acceptable. I don't eat chicken nuggets, btw. I do buy free range British meat.